gejim u are wrong once again, i don't care if you reply, just glad that the board will read this, u conveniently forgot these posts, that clearly show you predicted down from 18 and a i called support, and by the way, u were all doom and gloom at that point, not surprised about that, and not surprised that we are up to 23 from that point
whenever i catch u making wrong predictions u say u were responding to an email, too bad, u posted here, deal with it, u said the same thing when at 9 u said waiting until 7 to buy, then we went to 19.50, do u want those posts as well
Posted by: GE_Jim
In reply to: GE_Jim who wrote msg# 17511 Date:4/3/2003 8:16:38 AM
Post #of 22544
BTW , spree, you mentioned that I'm down on the company. I can trade this till the cows come home if I wish and while I wait. I'll be fine, just more work.
But just in case you haven't noticed, just you catch the sell off? Let me help you .It was more than just one person
Are you even watching what the big boys are doing? Apparently not
Have you noticed the short increase, ever wonder why ?
And regarding insiders sales, isn't it nice that the window just happens to open during every IDCC top.
Man are they lucky is all that I can say.
Off to trading , have a day
GE_Jim
In reply to: spree99 who wrote msg# 17506 Date:4/3/2003 7:42:17 AM
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Spree, sorry I play with real money, I have no idea what you use. I read the 10K and I do have questions.
RE: your statement " again there is nothing that states that we need another company for 2g, only 3g and after ericy is announced as another license with 3g that will satisfy it"
Where does the company 10k say that?
From the 10k on the 2G - no 3 g mentioned here. The 3G followed below and added no color into these statements on 2 G
The Ericsson and Sony Ericsson license agreements apply to 2G GSM/TDMA and 2.5G GSM/GPRS/TDMA infrastructure and terminal unit products. Accordingly, one or more additional agreements with a designated leading manufacturer will be necessary, in the absence of agreement between ITC and Nokia, to fully define the full scope of Nokia’s obligations under its patent license agreement. The starting point for calculating Nokia’s royalty obligation will be January 1, 2002. In addition, Samsung elected to apply its MFL provision to ITC’s patent license agreement with Nokia as regards Samsung’s 2G and 2.5G TDMA-based products. Therefore, beginning in 2002 Samsung’s royalty rate should be determined in the same manner as Nokia’s royalty rate is determined.
RE : your statement " so u will probably see very shortly, 3g signing ericy, nok and samsung agree to rates with ericy on 2g and 3g, as well as other companies signing"
Why? Based on what? And what do you mean probably?
From the 10K There is no assurance that either Nokia or Samsung will agree with ITC as to the applicability of the licensing terms between ITC and Ericsson and Sony Ericsson. The MFL terms include provisions for a period of review, negotiation, and dispute resolution with regard to the determination of royalty obligations of Nokia and Samsung
Again why did Sharp refuse to renew? What caused them not to renew?
Why do we need another license signed by anybody to start the rate on 2G MFL's which have been on going and already owed now that we HAVE A LICENSE HOLDER PAYING 2G WHICH SHOULD HAVE TRIGGER THE RATE PER what the company has stated in previous 10K?
And most importantly is the company doing the indemnifying the reason for all above? Why did this just pop up?
No spree , no negative , curious what this company is doing, not very clear at all. And when my money is concerned I'm not very good at guess your best. No I need detail, and from the company, not the what if's from the board.No from the company I get can't answer that if you call and nothing if you e mail. You would think they could present a few answers in the 10 K, again only new questions and were left to guess are best. You get a lot more information from most other companies, look at Qcom as an example, or CSCO , here you get to guess what they could be talking about in vague terms and can answer that answers, and that includes the CC 's , I'm starting to wonder why that is.
Serious questions. Nothing from the company. Plenty from the board. From the board we have great stuff, like 2 bil from ericy , 400 mil from samsung and all companies begging to sign on. Qcom trembling in fear and Mot trying to figure a way to get back on IDCC's go side, You bet!
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Posted by: GE_Jim
In reply to: None Date:4/2/2003 10:45:08 PM
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Well I see were still talking on who will be doing the indemnifying. Frankly I don't know but it seems to be a very new event. No talk of this issue till now. And no hold up on the previous licenses signed. Nothing for this year yet I don't believe. If it's Qcom, why is it just starting to be mentioned now? Nothing has changed between Qcom and IDCC for 8 years. What did somebody at Qcom just wake up one day and stay, hmmmmmmm you know I think were going to indemnify anybody who is thinking to deal with IDCC? WHY WASN'T IT MENTIONED TILL NOW!
I think not, no this is something new or at least recent. Something happened as of late and I'm not convinced at all that that's is locked to Qcom. Could be, could be some other also.
Why isn't the rate set with Nokia for 2 G, why is it still accruing instead plan to have it paid ? I under stand why were not being paid for 3G here, but why not 2G. Why is an additional license needed to start the 2G payments?
Also a little unclear why Sharp didn't renew. They certainly had plenty of time to finalize it. 5 years! What happened.Why would Sharp not renew as a matter of good will?
I would think the Japan courts might be interlocked on this issue.
But trying to get the correct answers from this public company is like trying to break the enigma codes of WWII. Shouldn't be that way.
Now this board may have many of these answers, In fact there is some that no doubt have them all, unfortunately the company doesn't know about them. Just this board. And thats kinda of sad and funny at the same time
Anyway Happy trading
Posted by: GE_Jim
In reply to: None Date:4/1/2003 9:00:42 PM
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Now where are those rose colored glasses, there they are, all right then. Well 70% of my stock sold off today. Blew right past the stops. Oh well that's the way it goes.
Still holding about 20k. Will decide what to do with those tonight. Tough day. Won't pick on management, as I haven't had anything for them for some time now.
For those that care about the tech side, we are coming from an extreme over bought, and today, from a tech prospective didn't change it a great deal. Yes we rolled over but were still on the very high side. That was a large run up we just had and it will be a long run down before were oversold. What will tomorrow bring, I would expect a little traders remorse short term, won't hold IMHO because of the lofty position we are already in. Perhaps a little buffering by the big boys, push a few shares in to pump up before taking a larger position out. If you don't know what I mean look at the min charts today, they telegraphed the plays.
I will say one thing about management, to me and me only I do feel I was misled, and played. I have to laugh, it's all good, all part of the game. Be a long while before I trust this one long-term however, but trading, oh yeah, I will trade the daylights out this one, good stock for that. Just ask the management. They're the masters of it. Damit anyway, they are good. I'll give them that
Good investing to all.
by the way u said we had a long way to go down before we got oversold at 18-19, we did not go down at all, up to 23 since that call
call me whatever u want, the bottom line is i have a better record at calling this stock than u do, pretty sad considering that u can't beat someone inferior, according to your assessment of me
april 1 price closed at 18.75, so what are u talking about 23
Posted by: GE_Jim
In reply to: mschere who wrote msg# 17513 Date:4/3/2003 8:23:11 AM
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To many companies to keep up with I guess. We got less than sales tax is what I know. Ericy less than the interest rate, and for 10 years no less. Nok the same, and nothing for 4 years on 2G and counting.
A lot of our I/P is being used and were not getting paid for it. That's been going for a long ,long time. It's nice to see were up to just the confusion part now.
as the price rises u just keep going negative
Posted by: GE_Jim
In reply to: spree99 who wrote msg# 17726 Date:4/4/2003 7:23:43 AM
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spree, sharp isn't a good enough reason to get me to buy long again. Signed or not.
oh really well we closed at 19.79 on that day, seems someone felt that there were reasons to buy long into the stock and send it up 3 dollars
Posted by: GE_Jim
In reply to: GE_Jim who wrote msg# 17746 Date:4/4/2003 7:33:21 AM
Post #of 22551
I guess what a person needs to do is break down the last couple 10k's and last couple CC's and see what really is happening here.
Near as I can figure the company gives away dollars to keep nickels. But the trading is good.
well riddle man can u tell us what is happening here, just more increases on the share price
Posted by: GE_Jim
In reply to: None Date:4/11/2003 10:38:26 PM
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I'd like to say a few words here so I'll address this to all.
My read on the markets right now is it's set up for a fall. Dow, S&P , Nas mid cap and small cap are rolling at the 50 mark .Vix is about as low as it can go. For those that trade this is a big factor to us. We have the start of earnings reports starting next week and the markets, {if I can get away with grouping like this} have the "you better show me something real " dog and pony days are done look to them. Again not over sold or over bought, but dead center in between. Some us that have been doing this awhile call it alignment. Lets hope for the good earning reports here. If so, it will break the back of the bear. If not it wouldn't be much longer anyway. There is no projecting this, as the reports will be the driver. The quicker the read the better the results, either up or down.
IDCC is also at the 50, btw when I say 50 I'm talking about relative strength index.
Which bring me to my point of posting. I have been running across many posters, emails asking is this a good time to trade? I hope this comes across as friendly as I mean it to be.
If you haven't traded before, now is not the time to learn. I mean this nicely.
Hold the shares.
If the minute you sell you start looking for a lower price to buy right back in. Or get nervous waiting for the price to drop.
Hold the shares.
If you don't know with reasonable certainty which direction the share price is going and the likely area of where it will wind up.
Hold the shares.
If you think your going to make a fortune in trading, but haven't lost a fortune by trading yet.
Hold the shares.
It takes a long time to get good at learning how to trade. It is not easy. And it's a time consumer to get it right. If you think you're going to become brilliant over night.
Hold the shares.
Right now if you're already holding there is no need to trade. No law says you have to get greedy.
Hold the shares.
I would guess you would have a very happy Christmas if you do.
But maybe you prefer trade, perhaps you get in right, or not. If not, you will not doubt chase it back up putting more money in that you didn't plan on, just about then it will correct back down for a brief time, you unfortunately just took a big loss by not getting it right the first time, can't afford to take another so you sell again, and at that point the market will own you. You will no doubt blame the MM's or the other traders, the street, the big boys or perhaps some one on this board. But the true is you thought you were smarter than those people and you decided to become brilliant overnight. You placed the orders. Not them.
There is an old saying, not necessarily true ,but, the market doesn't make any money, every time somebody makes a buck, and somebody loses one. That's especially true with trading as the better ones are taking from the poorer ones. The longs are just holding.
In this case with IDCC I would add " a bird in the hand"
All this above is just an opinion, but if you haven't traded before you may wish to put some thought to it.
Anyway just a few words, nothing more.
BTW It doesn't mean IDCC has to go down or up. Absent of news it should follow the market however. This is not a negative things here, if fact the best thing to do with this one is close your eyes and walk away for a while with whatever you can hold or add.
one minute u are calling the markets down, now u say idcc just following them up, very curious
there are a couple more posts, throwing wild doom and gloom situations regarding idcc, if u need them i will post them for u, those posts clearly looked as if u owned idcc u should jump out of a building
good luck
by the way how much farther do we have to fall before we are oversold
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