Anyone who has played the penny market for a long time can give at least one story of how hundreds of investors had no doubts about a stock that was being called a scam. In all those cases some investors actually sat down and talked with the CEO in person and felt as you are saying some here feel about JR. I remember one that a group of investors went to the office, were given permission to video tape the whole day. They were shown the rock quarry and office followed by a sit down q&a period. I put all their video clips together as a presentation to all the investors on ihub. That was going to be the one that would make us all rich!!! That stock never made any of us rich in fact we all lost a ton of money. Get it? Don't even trust these Penney stock CEOs when they tell it to your face, they are all con men that would f you any chance they have. JR is proving this with his other company. JR has not kept investors updated on kmag at all. The little he does put out he never follows up on. His last pr said he would keep the investors in the loop with more pr's but we have seen nothing in how long? All I hear are excuses made for JR and how he is the greatest CEO to ever live. I understand trying to protect your investment but there is a point when you need to go after the man who is taking you for a ride full of lies.