Replies to post #141608 on NanoTech Entertainment Inc (NTEK)

[Crazy Money]

David Foley promoting NTEK at the CES ;-) lolzzz

thought you did not promote NTEK? :-D

[chitownbiker]

Can you do one more post and tell us longs when the np-1 will ship? That will stop a lot of the nonsense i believe. Just need to start shipping the product.

[B402]

Nah, this is the First time you have said This

and
Its Just backing the DD on HVEC done here

But now that you have come clean that the NP-1
Is no better than a 1080 Box

The NP-1 is delivering 4K today over internet speeds as low as 6 mbit/s at 2160p30 using H.264

No break through there
It just doesn't do it well
Like anything else that tries at
Speeds that Low

If it did
You would be CES news
http://ces.cnet.com/

But

[nuubie]

Um Dave, NO FCC ID Number, Old Label design, take a look at the corners on the label, upper left hand radius smaller than the upper right hand radius, lower radiuses on both sides whacked off at a diagonal, looks like hand cut and DEFINITELY not factory die cut:




http://www.wll.com/newsletter/T&EIssue22.pdf

[Cavster]

Foley you had months to figure out the coding to run 4k hevc on the NP-1. What is the real reason why the NP-1 cannot stream 4k hevc? Looks like many investors are also questioning what is actually streaming at 6Mbps. You clearly stated in the interview at CES that high motion films will require a higher bitrate. Also that you are tailoring and lowering the quality of films to stream at a lower bitrate that are slow motion. If Netflix is streaming 4k hevc, how will your V9 player be able to convert that? Looks like the only one being misleading is NTEK.

[Crazy Money]

11 days to get back home to be sentenced :-D

David R. Foley ;-) NTEK promoter...

[Zorax]

Maybe we can discuss how you have misappropriated the term “4K” and turned it into a marketing mantra like a jillion other TV and device marketers. 4K is easy to remember and since no one really knows what it means, easier to accept.

4K is a professional production and cinema standard, while UHD is a consumer display and broadcast standard. The term “4K” originally derives from the Digital Cinema Initiatives.


“(DCI), a consortium of motion picture studios that standardized a spec for the production and digital projection of 4K content.
In this case, 4K is 4096×2160, and is exactly twice the previous standard for digital editing and projection (2K – 2048×1080). As you can see, 4K clearly refers to the fact that the vertical resolution (4096) is just over four thousand. The 4K standard is not just a resolution, either: It also defines how 4K content is encoded. A DCI 4K stream is compressed using JPEG2000, can have a bitrate of up to 250 megabits per second (Mbps), and 12-bit 4:4:4 color depth and image quality.”


Full HD — Is the official name for the display resolution of 1920×1080. UHD doubles that resolution to 3840×2160. Just about every TV or monitor that you see advertised as “4K” is actually UHD. Rare few are 4096×2160 (aspect ratio 1.9:1). Displaying 3840x2160 on a “4K” TV would get you letterbox output (black bars on the sides) It’s still being worked for the encoding spec of UHD. It will not be the quality DCI 4K.

Another point, is delivering the content in usable frame rates. If all your devices encode up to 2160p 30fps, then any other content originally at 60fps will have to be compressed and will not be quality. No matter what codec or encoding , upsampling, downsampling or massaging Ntek does.
And 30fps is a fail for gamers.

So who is hiding behind misrepresentation of technology.

Just one link in a bunch that raises more questions than answers about Ntek tech.
http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/174221-no-tv-makers-4k-and-uhd-are-not-the-same-thing

[Airdawg Investments]

Email With Nvidia Technician

Even Nvidia doesn't seem very confident that their Tegra 4 can support 4k streaming H.265 HEVC...

Email 1:

"Hi I am interested in buying a new cell phone, tablet and set-top 4k TV box in the near future. I want to buy a device that supports H.265 HEVC 4K streaming. Some companies are not very clear if your chipsets used in their devices are able to stream 4K HEVC or not. For example would a top-set box using the Tegra 4 be able to stream 4k HEVC? I have heard that there are minimum cpu/gpu requirements. If the Tegra 4 chipset cannot support streaming 4K H.265 HEVC, will the Tegra 5 or Tegra K1 be able to?

Qualcomm states that their Snapdragon 805 is their first chipset capable of streaming 4K HEVC. This implies that their previous version, the Snapdragon 800 cannot support 4K HEVC. Since the Snapdragon 800 has about the same cpu and gpu power as the Tegra 4, I assume the Tegra 4 cannot stream 4k HEVC. Is this correct? Thank you for taking the time to clear this up for me."


Response 1:

"Thank you for your interest in our range of products. As per the specifications the Tegra 4 and Tegra K1 support 4K Ultra HD resolution on HDMI. Please click on the following links for the specifications

Tegra 4
http://www.nvidia.com/object/tegra-4-processor.html

Tegra K1
www.nvidia.com/object/tegra-k1-processor.html

Please let us know if the above information was helpful and continue to post us for any further queries and we would be glad to assist you"


Email 2:

"I was wondering if the chipsets could support 4k streaming with the H.265 HEVC codec? I already know that the Tegra 4 can support 4K H.264 and 1080P H.265."

Response 2:

"Please accept our apologies for the inconvenience caused, we would need some time to research on this issue to provide a suitable solution. For this reason I request you to bear with us for a response within the next 24 to 48 hours

Thank you for your co-operation "

Will be interesting to hear their response after their "research". How does Nvidia themselves not know if the Tegra 4 is capable of supporting 4k HEVC? If you check their PR on the new chipset, the Tegra K1, they also do not mention anything about 4k H.265 HEVC.

"Whereas Qualcomm’s Snapdragon 805 is expected to support HEVC decoding in hardware, Nvidia makes no mention of acceleration in Tegra K1, unfortunately. "

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/tegra-k1-kepler-project-denver,3718.html

http://www.nvidia.com/object/tegra-k1.html


The specs on the Tegra K1 seem powerful enough to support 4k HEVC. Maybe they have an exclusive contract with Google to only use V9?

[Airdawg Investments]

Excuses are easy to manufacture, hard to sell.

[Crazy Money]

NTEK goin' down...