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samsamsamiam

11/18/13 2:00 PM

#113795 RE: Zorax #113789

http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Netflix-4K-Video-Will-Need-At-Least-15-Mbps-125924

Netflix: 4K Video Will Need At Least 15 Mbps
by Karl Bode 10:44AM Monday Sep 23 2013
Netflix has stated that the company's goal is to stream content in the 4K format by 2014 or so. Netflix recently started offering Super HD and 3D streams, if your ISP has signed up for the company's new content delivery network. Super HD streams need 5-7 Mbps of bandwidth, while 3D streams need 6-12 Mbps of bandwidth. Rather unsurprisingly, 4K video streams will eat substantially more bandwidth than both.


"Going forward we’ll see more and more 4K, and that will work really well over the Internet," Netflix CEO Reed Hastings stated last week at the Copenhagen Future of TV Conference.

"It’s around 15 megabits per second," Hastings stated when asked about 4K streaming bandwidth needs. "It’s not too bad. If you've got a 50-megabit connection you’ll be fine."

Obviously slower speeds will seen higher compression, and Netflix has yet to clarify what compression they'll use. Unfortunately, there's wide swaths of people in the United States that still only have access to DSL services that are slower than 6 Mbps. There's also the rising issue of bandwidth caps and per byte overages -- which certainly won't play well with 4K video.

Given very low early adoption, Hastings doesn't think the bandwidth needs of 4K video will really strain ISP network anytime soon. "...As an overall system load, it will grow quite slowly and steadily, giving people lots of time to build the infrastructure," insists Hastings.
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goinsouth

11/18/13 2:14 PM

#113811 RE: Zorax #113789

That is not completely true! Here is the explanation from DRFoley on 06/16/13...

It's really simple. Go to www.speedtest.net and run the test at your home. If you get over 6mbit we can stream 4K to your house. if you get over 10mbit we can stream near lossless 4K to your house.

Most internet providers getting 20mbit/s or less service is under $60 per month.

Last year the average US home was getting 6.6mbit service and paying $44 a month.

No, streaming doesn't replace cable TV now, but it will. Streaming and on demand programming will take over. Look at this scenario. When Tivo first came on the scene, nobody had DVR. Now over 50% of the homes have a DVR.

Viewing habits change, and on-demand is becoming the norm and will replace the methodolgy employed now. Yes, there will always be the need for live streams, and scheduled programming, but long gone are the days of episodic content being dolled out and recorded to DVR, that type of content is moving to VOD very quickly.

TV is becoming a buffet, where viewers will pick and choose and no longer be taking the "base package"

With all of that said, 4K is coming, and while we aren't betting the farm on it, we are investing very heavily on it. We have addressed the technology, and soon you will see we will be working on content as well. Most of the big names do not have streaming players now, and are waiting on the hardware implementation of HEVC (aka H.265) to build them. Next year at CES you will see many of them, and then the race will begin for content. We will have had over a year under our belt by the time they get to market. They may even destroy the sales of our player at some point next year, but that is okay because our real goal is to have the 4K content and infrastructure that can be deployed on multiple devices. We are hardware agnostic, and will have our channels on as many devices as possible.

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Nikodemos

11/18/13 3:20 PM

#113845 RE: Zorax #113789

Nonsense! Facts are that MOST homes can't stream
higher than 10Mbs & NTEK has claimed lossless 4K
Streaming sub 10Mbps. In fact, they are UNDER
the national average...no one else is streaming
CLOSE!!!


GET THE FACTS!!!!


NTEK