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10/27/13 10:42 PM

#124139 RE: DavidA2 #124138

At least it seems we got the Windows segment back on track again, albeit still rough at this point.



Do we? Or has my Venue 8 Pro not shipped (ordered on the 18th), ASUS T100's continually selling out, and many of the other models not even been announced?

I am starting to believe that we lost the Surface 2 and Nokia 2520 sockets on timing, not necessarily because Microsoft wanted to push RT.
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chipguy

10/28/13 1:16 AM

#124144 RE: DavidA2 #124138

Qualcomm and Nvidia are much more established LP SoC vendors with lot more real-world(ie. selling) experience than Intel.

Does LP stand for low power?

If so, what is this LP chip from Nvidia you speak of?

I no more associate LP with Nvidia than health food with KFC.
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wbmw

10/28/13 11:06 AM

#124164 RE: DavidA2 #124138

No doubt it's been a disappointing year so far for Intel. They finally have excellent products on the market, and after waiting 2 years for them to get there, their biggest partners seem to be either disinterested, dragging their feet with late introductions, or shy about ramping volumes. If parts aren't on the shelves in high volume soon, it will miss the Black Friday blitz, and Intel's prospects for share gains will be pushed to next year.

Trust me, I feel your frustration. However, I'm thinking the blame is shared by all. Intel was late in delivering compelling products, and even with Haswell and Bay Trail, Intel could have done more with graphics performance on both, either by introducing Iris graphics at lower price points to ramp excitement, or by doubling down on Bay Trail graphics with an 8EU implementation. I was hoping for the latter, since it would have been easy for them to take a half implementation of Ivy Bridge graphics, and I doubt the die size adder would have been more than 5-10 mm2.

On the other hand, there's blame around the Intel ecosystem, too, since few traditional OEMs are taking risks and getting products to market as fast as Samsung or Google.

It's unfortunate, since even with 4EU, Bay Trail is not a bad product. Yes, it could have blown away Snapdragon 800 with a bit of a more robust graphics implementation, but at least it's on par with Tegra 4 and Exynos 5420. And Intel is already selling Clovertrail+ into sub-$299 10" tablets, and $149 7" tablets. These are great price points. Replace CT+ with Bay Trail in Q1, and these should be incredibly popular. Just need to get Android shipping. Sucks to be late.