Replies to post #69659 on Advanced Micro Devices Inc (AMD)

[DARBES]

reading the very few of your posts that i do...i would hope that intel could afford to pay for better representation on this thread than you seem to represent

[Ixse]

Kate, re: May Hang.. get it. Bios workarounds are common and you know it. Yawn.

A bios workaround that shuts off ALL of Speedstep will not make it wanted, especially by corporations. Without Speedstep, and considering the already extreme max power it will now need to function at constantly, it's virtually sure that Intel will hardly sell any significant volume of this first iteration of Presler.

Yes bios workarounds are very common as you noted, but this 'workaround' is so crude that it rather significantly devalues Presler, especially for corporations; so much that it wil be shunned by most especially by corporations but also by the knowledgeable consumers. This thermal Presler fluke probably will drive continued pressure on their 90nm fabs because Prescott will need to replace Presler is most cases. Both in server and desktop lines.

I think no Intel person actually said 'yawn' because of the consequences for sales - I frankly think most used the F-word instead. Even more importantly Intel's image is not exactly enhanced by the continuing string of P4- and Itanium related flukes.

Regards,

Rink

[chipdesigner]

Kate, the BIOS "workaround" DISABLES thermal management. So, as I said, Presler thermal management is broken until Intel respins.