Replies to post #1803 on Advanced Micro Devices Inc (AMD)

[yourbankruptcy]

wbmw, got your point. Sorry, I had to read more carefully. Still, even taking this into account pure clock difference does not mean that AMD did not decreased the gap in manufacturing. The fact that Barton is clocked only around 2.1 Ghz is most likely attributed to the estimate that AMD sacrificed some binsplits in order to get better yields. And it seems to work as Barton 3000 is widely available and it seems that >90% of all processors AMD is making now can clock at 2.1 Ghz without rasing the voltage. It seems Barton 3000 is not cherry-picked, they all are made 3000, but some of them sold as 2500. Same true for XP, almost all modern Athlons work at 2800 without raising voltage above 1.65V. It seems the only reason XP 3200 is not introduced is that market doesn't need it, because any 3000 can clock higher. AMD seems to prefer introducing "400" Mhz bus instead of clocking Barton at 2.2.

If you take overclocker sites, you'll see a great progress in the last few months. T-bred A was limited to 2 Ghz or so, T-bred B now can reach 2.5 Ghz and Barton 2.8 Ghz. Well, you know all that yourself.

[kpf]

wbmw - relativity

There is a slight mistake in these data:
May 06: Intel 2.53, AMD 1.73 Intel/AMD +46.2% (real)
Jun 10: Intel 2.53, AMD 1.73 Intel/AMD +46.2% (real)
Aug 26: Intel 2.80, AMD 1.80 Intel/AMD +55.6% (real)
Oct 01: Intel 2.80, AMD 2.00 Intel/AMD +40.0% (real)
Nov 14: Intel 3.06, AMD 2.00 Intel/AMD +53.0% (real)
Jan 01: Intel 3.06, AMD 2.13 Intel/AMD +43.7% (real)
Feb 10: Intel 3.06, AMD 2.06 Intel/AMD +48.5% (real)
Mar 01: Intel 3.06, AMD 2.13 Intel/AMD +43.7% (real)

That is AMDs clockspeed on Mar 01 is 2.166 instead of 2.13

Now, what you claim is comparing relative clockspeeds. Ok.

3,066/2,533 = 21% increase for intel and
2,166/1,733 = 25% increase for AMD during this period.

In essence, from raw clockspeeds alone there is 20% difference for the increases of clockspeed during the period.

We can leave aside the fact that the AMD Mar 01 part has double L2 cache than the May 06 part. Which makes a 100% increase thisrespectively.

K.