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rrufff

11/09/05 5:33 AM

#338 RE: abh3vt #337

It's the "chicken-egg" argument. I believe it is a question of information availability as I posted.

It's a combination of scamming manipulation, by vulture financers, insiders, hedge funds and market makers, often acting together, or with leaked information.

I also believe that manipulation with respect to convertibles and pipes does not explain all the failures to deliver and that there is probably more that needs to be done in this area to get at the scamming by hedge funds and MM's.

The good thing is that this is now in the mainstream media and eventually we will see action to lessen this gold mine for scammers.


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bartermania

11/09/05 8:11 AM

#340 RE: abh3vt #337

THERE IS NO NEED FOR SHORTING. SHORTING DOES NO GOOD.

MAKE THE SOCIAL SYSTEM/SOCIETY A BETTER PLACE...ELIMINATE SHORTING NOW.

SHORTING AND SYSTEM INSIDERS ARE MANIPULATING THE MARKETS AND STOCKS FOR THEIR OWN GAINS...TO HELL WITH THE INVESTORS/SUCKERS/BOZOS/MARKS/BAGHOLDERS AND THE CO.'S THEY INVEST IN...THAT'S THEIR MOTO....ALL THEY WANT IS: OUR MONEY/MORE POWER/TO BE LEFT ALONE (AND UNDER THE COVER OF NON-ACCOUNTABILITY/OUR IGNORANCE AND DARKNESS--->AN INFORMATION BLACK-OUT AND MONOPOLY) TO CONTINUE THE FLEECING AND THE REAL SCAM--->WHICH IS: SHORTING/NAKED SHORTING/CONTROLLING-MANIPULATING & RIGGING THE SYSTEM/MARKETS FOR THEIR OWN SELFISH/SELF-SERVING & ROTTEN GAINS.

MY DISTRUST, DISGUST AND ANGER FACTOR IS VERY VERY HIGH...AND WITH AND FOR...VERY GOOD REASONS.

NOW IT'S TIME FOR THE ONES WITH NO MORALS...THESE THIEVES...TO PAY...TO GET WHAT THEY ARE DUE...FOR THE ROTTEN AND DECADENT CROOKS & SCUM THAT THEY REALLY ARE.