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rudolfo

01/12/13 6:25 PM

#12627 RE: AG_stock #12626

AGstock, Deep Space responded to all that you just posted on postings between 12573 to 12595 a few days ago. That is in case you forgot.
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Deep Space

01/12/13 6:47 PM

#12628 RE: AG_stock #12626

That is only one way to look at it AG,:) and I could not disagree more based on what is really going on here.How do you figure 1 million in revenue for DLA associated work.I say WAY off .I guess you think no expansion in DLA work?What do you think is going on in textiles,packaging,,,,and do you figure this could move the pps? London police is plenty of clarification of DNA spray right?Do you see any more growth in metal,copper spray? The contracts here are not speculative. They are in fact Huge.Why do you say they will need more capital financing? APDN has not said this.They have a handheld device for the dna marking that HAS never been duplicated or will.
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TyneMan

01/12/13 7:38 PM

#12629 RE: AG_stock #12626

Hi AG, sadly, after a bit of detective work, I've come to the same conclusion. I've hestitated posting what I've found in. here, as I don't want to be trashed by the bulls but, lets just say that, in my opinion, some of the APDN PR is pure BS, created purely to hike the PPS. Nothing wrong with that I suppose - that's business - but I bought at .21 so you can understand where I'm coming from?

As said last month, I suspect there'll be further dilution towards the middle/end of the year and if the DLA annouce a moratorium whilst they discuss implementation with the Manufactuers, well, Apdn could be history, as their cash burn is being increased, not reduced. $7.5m may sound a lot but its not when you're burning cash at the current rate and they need to generate cash quick - or whither and die. You can stick your mandate because without significant sales, not of licences but commodity, ADNAS will be no more,

I wish everyone well but I'm out ASAP and will watch from the sidelines.
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apdn1mill

01/12/13 8:32 PM

#12631 RE: AG_stock #12626

AG,

For 2013 first quarter alone,they will make more than a million from DLA mandate.So your number $1-$1.5 million is way off.

APDN has more than $7.5 million cash as of now.Dr.Hayward said funds are sufficient till December 2013. So dilution is out of question.

APDN is not a speculative stock.They have DLA mandate in their kitty.Their revenue just started growing. They have signed multiple contracts.
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Apdn believer

01/13/13 3:32 PM

#12646 RE: AG_stock #12626

This is my first post this year belated new year wishes to all. I have said before I respect your posts AG and appreciate your comments.

There may well be some truth in some of the things you say. Time will certainly tell :)

The biggest killer of any business is a lack of cash especially in today's economic climate. Our good Dr said the $2 mill last year would be sufficient to ramp up stock to handle contracts and would be enough to protect the company till end of 2013. The additional $5 mill should last a further couple of years at least, quite a position to be in. In truth if APDN are not cash rich in their own right by then then the PPS will reflect that I'm sure.

I like you was very surprised at the poor Q4 figure reported. I spoke to my broker who also owns shares in APDN and he said the PPS would not move much downwards as the % of holders of stock like you and me is actually quite small and the significant holders of stock he has spoken too do not expect significant earnings to be reported till Q2 -Q3 in this fiscal year.

I congratulate your timing regarding your exit and I respect you and others including Tyne man and your decision to exit. Whether we on this board collectively invest or not really has little bearing on the PPS anyway and I would not try to persuade others to do either.

As I said earlier some of your comments may well prove true. My own opinion is that you and I and others outside of APDN know only a little about the true position within the company. It is a fact that the last Q sales were poor, certainly lower than I expected. It is also a fact that Dr Hayward has been awarded a good pay rise based on minimum Q revenues in excess of $ 1 mill which would suggest Q1 revenues of over $1 mill.

The conundrum I face personally is that knowing much more than you and I APDN achieved investment at over .22 PPS. I don't believe our institutional investor would invest millions unless they are confident of a handsome return. Given some of your comments AG if you are rught I could understand the PPS dropping to maybe .18-.19 and hanging around there till Q1 earnings. So given the recent placement crede are clearly very confident the PPS will head north of .25 soon to achieve a reasonable return. And let's be honest a lot of the numbers you state are naturally speculative as we have little from APDN to base expectations on. I just cannot believe APDN would achieve such a big investment if you were right :) time will tell.

I am personally still APDN long and I think that we will start getting a pr blitz soon and I am quite happy to back the confidence that crede have shown and look forward to more contracts and turnover and hopefully the blue sky of profits in the coming year but I wish everyone good luck and thanks for the posts.