By the way, Ren, I finally met Glenn face to face over this holiday break. I now look forward to meeting Barbara if what you say is true about Yin and Yang. We had a long dinner and I found Glenn intelligent, quick and a very sharp business strategist and tactician. I liked him and it was a fun time not just intense business stuff. That impression is important for our company, I think. I can't recall if you said you like him but if you had said this, I would understand. I tried to outrun him intellectually a couple of times but, without using my specialized knowledge, I could not. Good news for WSGI, IMO. A friend of a friend is my friend! Thanks, Ren. IJO.