Replies to post #125913 on InterDigital Inc (IDCC)

[mschere]

IDCC is currently licensing 802.xx by incorporating it in its 3G license...802.11e, WLAN, WIMAX etc. will only be incorporated by Wireless Operators of 3G if they can control the Billing...IDCC is on solid ground in their IP to provide handover from one system to another with Handsets and Lap top chips..Most of the Majors have worked with IDCC to establish these Standards..Just as Lucent worked with Tantivy to establish WWINA..which they are now fighting to avoid payment..IMO:It is not about the 1% that IDCC is seeking for their complete end to end Wireless 3G solution..

Mschere.

Nokia, its attorneys, and The Pekka, must be more than a little pi$$ed at this news release.

Instead of Mighty Q, Motorola, Nokia or Ericy chairing this Task Group, it's none other than our own Brian Kiernan.

[mschere]

Motorola prepares to play to its strengths in WiMAX
By Joni Morse
Sep 13, 2005
Motorola Inc. says it is playing its trump card-wireless mobility-in the WiMAX space, skipping over 802.16 Revision D in favor of getting Revision E (the mobile standard) products to market by the second quarter of 2006.
The Moto Wi4 portfolio of mobile WiMAX solutions represents a companywide development initiative based on the IEEE 802.16e standard, which the WiMAX Forum has not yet completed, but is expected to finish soon, said Paul Sergeant, senior manager of MOTOwi4 marketing.


Sergeant explained that Motorola's Carrier Access Point architecture is an all IP-based peer-to-peer carrier-class network with no switches, based on the company's Canopy Broadband Wireless Access solution. Canopy technology uses shoebox-sized intelligent base stations that can be mounted on billboards, buildings or almost anywhere, and targets the rural, entrepreneurial and residential communities.

For its carrier-class solution, Motorola touts that much of the traditional hardware elements are not needed, making the solution attractive to carriers since it can help them cut capital and operational costs. Just as important to carriers, Sergeant said Moto Wi4 products will have the capability of receiving software upgrades over-the-airwaves, sparing carriers from operational headaches and sparing their customers from the costs of constantly upgrading their handsets. Thus, even though the specifications for Rev E have not yet been set, carriers who deploy pre-standard products will be able to become standards-compliant using their existing infrastructure and just receiving the upgrade over the air.

While wireless carriers with adequate spectrum that already have invested heavily in traditional wireless technologies likely won't be initial targets for WiMAX solutions, other carriers, including wireline operators, rural local exchange carriers and spectrum-deprived wireless carriers, may deploy WiMAX solutions.

In rural areas, often left out of the latest and greatest in technology, Motorola said its Moto Wi4 architecture offers a low-cost-of-deployment and ownership or can be considered a 'light infrastructure' solution.

"This really opens the door for RBOCs, and possibly others, to offer triple-play bundled packages in rural areas, offering cable, Internet and wireless service," Sergeant noted.

"Moto Wi4 products make it possible for carriers to spend less and deliver more, at higher speeds," Sergeant said.

Motorola has an agreement with Sprint Nextel Corp. to test Moto Wi4 products at 2.5 GHz.

Motorola envisions its WiMAX product line starting out with the antennas, evolving to desktop modems for nomadic PC applications, then to PCMCIA cards and battery-operated devices, then to rugged modems for public safety and finally to handsets-type devices.

[Learning2vest]

Ranger,

From what I can figure out, the 802.16e story is even better than that. Nokia initiated sponsorship of a 802.20 initiative for WLAN mobility awhile back when they "broke bad" on IDCC.

Nokia reniged on commercial sponsorship of WTDD right after IDCC completed the development work they funded, and at the same time Nokia initiated sponsorship of a WLAN standard(802.20) with pretty much the same specs to compete with WTDD!!! Nasty stuff.

So what does little IDCC do? Well, they put Brian K on point in defining a better version of WLAN mobility based on IDCC IPR is what I think they did.

This delighted observer thinks IDCC delivered Nokia a "Bazoo! Wanna go again?" message on WLAN. And that IDCC is way down the road on developing the best methods for convergence of 3G and WLAN. Nokia has to be sucking a lot of wind as they watch IDCC engineers just keep on keeping on.

[my3sons87]

Ranger, I think the Judge is tired of watching the Snake play with the Pekka and decisively end this debacle. I have often wondered if the Snake does not want the Arb loss to go down on his watch and is delaying to have it paid out on the Pekka's watch.

[ed_ferrari]

I don't see why... in looking through the contributions through session 35, I found several from Nokia, so they obviously have been imbedding some of their IPR.

http://www.ieee802.org/16/tge/#Contributions