Misunderstood me, there's simply no in-between with this stock, and here's the reasoning behind that. First of all, I am a long and believe in the company 99.99%, but that .01% disbelief still exists, that is until, like Banana says, we see verivable proof of product on store shelves. That's all we want, and all we need. That last sentence covers the absolute success, at least for us bottom-feeders(.0001)buyers, because even the slightest movement upwards, say .005, will make us 100 million clubbers $500,000, and that should make any of us wealthy. Every 100 million = another $500,000. There claims to be two shareholders, at least, who own over 400 million apiece, so there's another $5,000,000 in profit. We know the stock is very tightly held, so over 25 billion shares would now be worth $62,000,000 @.005, which is easily attainable. Now, as far as the absolute failure, that would be if the entire scenario was a scam, which would make all the you-know-who's very happy, and the mm's a little richer. Amen.