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Michael Allard

08/31/05 9:10 AM

#17329 RE: wiredog #17328

Wiredog:

I never argued that Comcast did not have their own network. You continue to "claim" that I did, but I have challenged you repeatedly to prove it (as my comments are on record here) and you continue to fail to do so (because there are no such statements from me). Again, for the record, I never claimed Comcast did not have, or did not use their "own" network. What I have said all along is that this network "is" part of the internet. You, Wiredog, have said it is not.

As proof of your (Wiredogs) claims, I offer his post #16747:
"Mike, most Cable Co's or at least Comcast are not using VOIP....they have their own networks that do not go over the internet.Its called CDV or Comcast digital voice."

and wiredogs post #17052:
"QOS attempts to ensure quality of the bitstream when error correction (which is the usual method) would be useless because voice calls must be immediate...
COMCAST needs no QOS because it does not travel over the internet....
POSER."

My claims all along have been that Comcasts Digital Voice is VoIP (wiredog claimed it was not), that it uses QoS (wiredog claims it does not), and that it uses the internet (wiredog seems to belive that Comcasts broadband network is not part of the internet?).

Wiredogs claims, and my responses are a matter of record on this board. Anyone can review them to see who said what and when. You can do this by clicking on my or Wiredogs name, and viewing the posts and replies.

plaintif2000

08/31/05 2:08 PM

#17349 RE: wiredog #17328

clearly msft thinks that quality w/ out "QOS" will improve
so stich and allard (and i for thinking that it was critical
as well) are wrong,

where i differ however is that i beleive that qos hurdles
are small, authentication on a clyw powered access point
may ultamately serve as a proxy for qos

further comcast could make an access point that would have
very little overlay to make it compatible w/ asnap, it would
be a black box concept

clyw phone <-> black box <-> outside the comcast network

once the asnap standard is developed on both ends the
"black box" should not be very diffacut to engineer

same would go for vonage or any other voip provider

cheers
p2k