I watched the MDMN meeting online and although I was a bit skeptical, I find it hard to believe that someone would come all the way from Chile to fool shareholders. There appeared to be a rather large room full of people that had pertinent questions answered. I will say that some things were a little difficult to understand in certain parts. Have you listened ? Why would anyone lie on tape let alone on a live feed. This is a very perplexing situation. Some days I believe other days I don't.