Both PTQ IR people I spoke with yesterday didn't have a solid reason for the production miss. I knew getting an audience with Fifer wouldn't happen, but I do expect some sort of explaination on Friday from him. All I want to hear him tell the world on the CC is the truth, even if it's not good news. Like I said we will probably see more selling either way, but you're not going to get people, especially institutional money, coming into a company where the Man running the show isn't trusted. IMO that is probably the biggest problem this company has to this point.