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hyperboy262626

12/17/11 6:27 PM

#8062 RE: Lucky Loser #8061

Thank you very much Lucky.....as a follow up were you able to verify the plan or mind-set to make this non dilutive.
I have been in agressive buy mode below .40

Fluid

12/17/11 6:40 PM

#8063 RE: Lucky Loser #8061

Well done Lucky. Chrystal clear clarity. I hope that everyone understands now.

Traderfan

12/17/11 9:33 PM

#8065 RE: Lucky Loser #8061

Lucky, thanks a lot for taking the time to provide this information. That's some great effort. I think it's of the utmost importance that shareholders have these detailed information in order to make a judgement whatever that will be. Here are some thoughts on my side.

1. I think even the last guy here now realized that I have been right from the beginning that all this huge selling lately was related to Ironridge and only to Ironridge. That's crystal clear. It doesn't matter whether it was shorting or real selling.

2. Now we didn't know that Ironridge already has the shares. My guess is they were shorting the stock since they signed the deal and until they actually received their shares. If you remember on friday was the first day the big asks came down to the low 40's. Otherwise below 45 cents was thin selling only, probably from tax loss guys. So that would somehow fit into the picture that their break even is somewhere in the low 40's. To be honest I'm not sure at this point what the action was on friday. Suddenly the big blocks on the ask came way down to the low 40's and even lower. Maybe some bigger retail guys threw in the towel or Ironridge sold some for a loss. Maybe they know that the O/S right now is already higher and their floor is lower therefore. Who knows.

3. I'm not exactly sure how they arrive at current O/S a bit below 70 million. They already had 66 million outstanding in the middle of november, look at the first page in the latest 10q there is this : "As of November 14, 2011, there were 66,234,262 shares of Common Stock issued and outstanding". With the 7 million from Ironridge it would be about 73 million now.

4. Regarding the part that Ironridge won't get any additional shares if SIAF doesn't dilute going forward. To be honest I have no idea why you believe that SIAF won't dilute anymore suddenly. Look at the latest 10q. They gave out shares basically every single month throughout the whole year 2011. Like clockwork. I wouldn't see why they would suddenly stop. That said what I would be interested is when you say they don't get any shares unless SIAF dilutes again, is there a deadline for this? Does this count until the whole debt is paid off or how long?

5. Regarding that fair hearing settlement. Did I just miss this 8k or why wasn't this filed? It's certainly an important information isn't it?

6. There is one more thing that I'm not sure of. How low exactly does Ironridge need the share price to keep at the deadline in order to keep all the shares they got?

foggysurf

12/17/11 10:41 PM

#8067 RE: Lucky Loser #8061

Ironridge has through the end of March, 2012 to meet its payment obligation to SIAF’s Creditors



so it has to be ironridge selling. they have to come up with 3M in 3 months.

so SIAF is debt free now? what happens if Ironridge defaults?

ps - thanks for the dd

Emilez

12/18/11 1:53 AM

#8071 RE: Lucky Loser #8061

Thanks Lucky Loser, you rock!

Finally some clarity on the conditions of the deal.

If SIAF had skipped repurchasing shares earlier this year at a higher price they could have saved money and they wouldn't have to involve IronRidge.

On the other hand, if they hadn't re-bought shares in the spring the price per share might have been even more depressed at that time, after selling the dairy.

I guess that about half a year ago they bet on a higher price per share now in December, so perhaps SIAF thought it would be a better deal than it turned out to be.

The only thing that would have been interesting to know is if they really reasoned as I wrote here.

Was the deal simply a bet on a higher price per share now in December combined with an effort to support the price per share through repurchase of shares in early summer?

The Swede

12/18/11 5:37 PM

#8080 RE: Lucky Loser #8061

So I guess a convertible note is out of the question until this deal is settled, otherwise Ironridge would have the right for more shares of the convertibles is converted to shares.