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wavedreamer

09/17/11 12:12 PM

#214546 RE: awk #214544

awk,

Your posted slides indicate why TPM.next is required.

Do you believe the prototype devices that Nvidia (and the others) are developing with Windows 8 have the problems solved that the first TPM standard is lacking in?? or is it to soon to say??

It all seems to be a work in progress?? And could explain why TPM adoption has been non existent (except for PWC) or am I giving the IT community way to much credit for not implementing the existing TPM infrastructure????

Some days I think "I get it" and then it slips away:))))))))))))
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tkc

09/17/11 6:23 PM

#214580 RE: awk #214544

Awk, as always thx for your input. Do you have an idea of timelines? MSFT's Win 8 contains TPM next(TPM 2.0),which suggests it can't be released until the TCG releases the specs on TPM next. When do you think that will happen? How long after that release could we anticipate WIN 8? Tia.
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wavedreamer

09/18/11 10:30 AM

#214586 RE: awk #214544

awk,

Now that the Arm designed chip makers are putting the TPM.Next in prototype devices leveraging Arm TrustZone, And Windows 8 can turn those TPM's on (and in fact Windows 8 uses the TPM for a secure Trusted Boot) you can see how the consumer market is being readied for Trusted Computing.

Arm Designed chips are the CPU's in 95% of all the world's smart phones and tablets. (includes devices made by Apple, RIM, Samsung, HTC, LG, Nokia, Motorolla, etc.). Arm has made it clear they are entering the PC/Server space in the next couple of years.

The consumer space and existing x86 powered devices will be united. I believe all those chips that will incorporate a TPM.Next specification will take most of 2012 to be made and have to find their way into devices by the end of 2012 into 2013 (my estimate).

Very exiting times. JMO
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dig space

09/18/11 2:03 PM

#214591 RE: awk #214544

awk TPM 2.0 MSFT etc,

It does appear from all this that the shim utility of Wave is be subsumed by MSFT (as anticipated by Wave and others some time ago).

At the time the notion was that hopefully Wave could make a considerable amount of hay prior to the whole interoperablity issue being abstracted away by the rich OS.

Two things: 1) at some point the whole notion of Wave special leverage afforded by their efforts in interoperablity will vanish, that point being Win8, and 2) Folks like PwC that are still contemplating may now have incentive to wait for a Win8 upgrade cycle, blowing notions of shims and interoperability out of the water.

So, in the end, did interoperability provide Wave with enough of a foothold to make the vanishing of that feature of their products immaterial?