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marcos

01/11/03 1:55 AM

#3 RE: Jackjc #2

I'm glad to see you're ok with the idea, EC is too apparently - #reply-18430792 ... if a little queasy -g- ... he does bring up a point - what would Louis Doyle think of this? .... well if anybody serious objects we can get things changed around here in a hurry ... really i can't see how we're stepping on any toes outside those of the wetcoast whorehouses, pieces of dung be upon them

The whole subject, of how companies get to the stage where they appear as tickers on exchanges, is quite fascinating isn't it ... there are stories that can turn any stomach, eh, you've been around and seen a few .... a fundamental divergence of interests lies between the genuine entrepreneur and those who would purport to take him public in the style to which he deserves to become accustomed ... Louis Doyle is clearly worthy of respect for skirting this obstacle course, so far, and it's not over yet, Barker is not quite off and running, looks like it will be soon though ..... here's the post from EC that inspired the combination, btw -

' Without 600K seed capital, even in a hot market you will not get a VC deal. If they put in the seed capital, they will own your company and control it. This means they can and probably will fire you within 6 months. It has happened to friends of mine who floated companies. It gets taken over the sharks who are just hanging around looking for properties to do major or minor transactions. You have to have control. That is why I am seeking a seed group who will retain majority. Otherwise you might as well shoot yourself in the f----ing head.

That is why Louis Doyle went and got his own 300 shareholders, and also why the exchange did not want to list him and also why his stock gets trashed.. that and he knows nothing about stock support.

I look for private people to get in on it and pool their stock. It should work as it is a small pre-producer. If we let people sell out on the market, then our stock will dive and we will never do a secondary. If we want a price, we have to lock ALL the stock for one year. And the brokers will like us better that way. That is also why Doyle cannot maintain a price, is because he has 300 people with free trading stock and no broker wants to eat all that paper. If he had pooling agreements he could keep the stock at a price where he could raise money. The same thing happened to Ernie Harrison with his Potter thing in Ontario. All his big time holders dumped at 2 bucks and the stock went to 15 cents, with drill holes and the whole nine yards.

After we are in production we can free up the stock and let it out into a real market. To bank on a smoke and mirrors explo play will get us no beleivability at all.

There is no primary really. There is seed people and a broker with suckers. If we can find one who will play and does not want to own 60% of the company.

EC<:-} ' - #reply-18425013

echarters

01/11/03 7:42 PM

#8 RE: Jackjc #2

Barker has good ground too. I talked to Doyle and even ventured to try to finance him from TO. He turned down the deal, or rather his laywer turned it down, and likely he was right, as the shareholders were "difficult." Proxy stiffs mostly and someone else had the proxies.

I talked to Doyle several times about his "valley" I averred it had the potential he thought it had, and told him what I would do with it. This is what he did eventually more or less and found the stuff which may be on of the sources, about where I said he would. (Half way up the hill where they had a smell, on the west side) He has even nicer stuff indicated now in samples by my geological figuring. Side hill drilling is real tough, but he may get lucky.

Sullivan type sulphides are tricky in drilling and in locating to drill. Also tricky getting the money to produce, and once in production the money from the smelter. There is money in it occasionally and the thrill of the chase.

Our thing makes people'seyes glaze over as it is "small mining" we want to do. Oh groan! How small? Well 1 ounce per ton to 6 ounces per ton. BUT it makes money. We don't have to beg. And I can small mine here and small mine there, and there and there.. and placer and tailings pond. And we know HOW to make money on it where others merely spend money. Especially in placer and tailings pond, which we have done before for other guys.

OK., I take it back about not having to beg. Capital equipment takes money and you cannot do it without spreading the risk amongst the risk holders. And in order to do that you have to give them a comfort zone. I suppose that is where the shares come in.

EC<:-}

marcos

01/31/03 3:07 PM

#27 RE: Jackjc #2

' Barker Minerals retains Beloud as market-maker

Barker Minerals Ltd BML
Shares issued 22,818,902 Jan 29 2003 close $ 0.24
Thursday January 30 2003 News Release
Mr. Louis Doyle reports
BARKER MINERALS RETAINS BELOUD MANAGEMENT
CONSULTANTS LTD.

Barker Minerals has retained Beloud Management Consultants Ltd. to act as a market-maker to maintain an orderly market in trading of its common shares. Beloud has agreed to act as a market-maker in accordance with TSX Venture Exchange requirements for a period of nine months and will receive a fee of $25,000. Beloud is owned by Lorne Beloud, a chartered accountant with an office in Kelowna, B.C.

(c) Copyright 2003 Canjex Publishing Ltd. http://www.stockwatch.com '
.................................................................

I don't see the effects of this showing up yet, maybe it starts in the month of February ..... wonder which house Beloud will use? ... picked up this bit on them from a google search, asz.v hired them 15 April last year -

' .... The rules of the CDNX define market making activities in part; 'Proper market-making activity corrects temporary imbalances in the supply of and demand for an Issuer's securities. The market should be allowed to rise and fall naturally, with the market-making activity operating primarily to smooth out these imbalances and facilitate an orderly market. Although a Person involved in market-making is not expected to ignore his or her economic self-interest or be precluded from also holding securities for investment purposes, he or she should normally be selling into a rising market and buying into a falling market. If the price stabilizes and there are sufficient buyers and sellers on both sides of the market, market-making activities should generally not occur at a level which materially affects the market'. ...'

http://www.allnetsecom.com/april_15_02.html

I have a stink bid in on bml, prepared to increase it if it gets hit .... thinking there may come a flush before it gets rolling for the season, clean out such holders as feel tired, and clear the decks