i did not say qasp I said dean. I know jeff well enough to know that if the company owes you something morally he will get it handled but i think you have to weigh all the actions of all the individuals involved to determine morality here. For instance if any of your associates or yourself were involved with illegal debt wraps and made out very well then I can say that has to be factored into the final tally to pay you more. Marty and I had quite a few conversations about a Joe Canouse, He called it JCP Capital.