OT Jancien: The thing about PANL is that they are just really starting to get product out into the market. Up until recently they were like IDCC when it was IMM, purely an R&D company. In the future they will begin to actually start making $$$ AND they will be making $$$ on pretty much every smartphone, tablet etc sold. Also they own the lion's share of IP for OLEDS, PHOLEDS etc, and I doubt things are going to be as litigious as in the guts of smartphones and basestations (engine and transmission). And I tend to think that they did a great job of drawing up their patents etc the former IDCC folks who run it having learned lessons from the past. Also the potential applications go well beyond smartphones, tablet devices etc. I LOVE PANL as a long term hold and accumulate. I think IDCC will explode and has the potential for a short to mid term double to triple and then will be solid for the forseeable future. I think PANL could 5x in the next 5 years. JMHO and yeah I am long both stocks! ;-)