Replies to post #53548 on Advanced Micro Devices Inc (AMD)

[chipdesigner]

Wrong. AMD isn't diverging on two different cores, Doug. They are putting these enhancements into the silicon and only enabling certain ones in Turion through one-time programmable fuses. Otherwise, Turion == Athlon 64.

LOL!!!

Yeah, right! Wow, imagine changing transistor properties through a fuse!

You really need to stop embarrassing yourself with this stuff.

From the point of view of optimizing *code*, and code-level features, yes, the architectures are the same, which is a great advantage that Intel lacks. With AMD, you still get SSE3 and AMD64 on Turion. With Intel, oops, sorry, can't do that.

[j3pflynn]

wbmw - Wrong. "Turion", just like Centrino, in many ways, is a marketing ploy, though AMD is granting more flexibility to the OEMs.
Perhaps the CPU is not as substantial a change as Banias was, but who cares? If it can successfully compete with Centrino, that's all that matters.
And all the denials in the world from you and chipguy will not matter a hill of beans if the OEMs like it!
Paul

[CombJelly]

"They are putting these enhancements into the silicon and only enabling certain ones in Turion through one-time programmable fuses."

You know this, how? According to this presentation at Hot Chips, they made a lot of changes. If it is as you say, then slide 8, where they talk about the different needs of mobile and dsktop processors seems strange....

http://www.hotchips.org/archives/hc16/3_Tue/9_HC16_Sess8_Pres2_bw.pdf

[HailMary]

Wrong. AMD isn't diverging on two different cores, Doug.

Well I'm jumping in a day late and in the middle of the argument, but the Turion and regular A64 are different silicon revisions. The transistors are tweaked on the Turion to optimize for power instead of frequency.

edit ... I see others have already provided links to the above point. I have a hard time keeping up with this board sometimes...