what i understood was that wmb and the fsb were both wholly owned subs of wmi. because no public stock was ever offered of the two and was totally privately owned by wmi. thats where all the questioning is coming from because they had no right to seize either the bank or fsb. only ots could make that call and fdic circumvented this process and just raided the whole bank,fsb,and holding company for assets to prop them up while the bk was taking place. and OMG! what hippie maude, welcome back kotter music is this? think they need an update on the muzak reel. jmo sf