olddog967, thanks. If the DE court action is only effecting the CDMA2000/WCDMA overlap patents (as per texb's message), then shouldn't IDCC get paid irrespective of this lawsuit based on other WCDMA patents that it holds. Things are really getting interesting. With this new CDMA2000/WCDMA overlap discovery regarding NOK lawsuit, how does the NOK license ending in 2006 will play out? TIA