I guess my last point hopefully on the matter is CHUCK is not PIHN he is mearly IR services for them though his actions reflect on PIHN. Many of us feel he is not what PIHN needs IR wise and if the US acquisition goes through I think KUNI may upgrade to big and more professional IR services. He seems to have a good attitude and probably finds it as hard as we do to get KUNI to give us updates on what his strategies are at times. I have never asked his compensation details hopefully it's just KUNI trying to save a buck on IR. We need KUNI to spend a little more on IR obviously is the ultimate goal.