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phrantic

05/05/10 11:37 PM

#117939 RE: XQZME #117938

What eventually happens in a lockdown, if you try flipping your shares, you'll play hell trying to buy back in, the MMs are already in que and you won't get filled until they're ready to let you back in, and it won't be at the price you want. XQ is correct, the only way to beat these guys is just don't sell into their bull/bear shakes.
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Bernanke_nomics

05/06/10 12:45 AM

#117940 RE: XQZME #117938

Some have posted that they support the lockdown and then turn around and state "if you do sell, sell above the ask". They are missing the point. To make a lockdown work, you can't sell. The whole key is to buy and lockup the float thus forcing MMs to raise the price. There is plenty of info about how a lockdown can work. It absolutely requires a unified effort and peeps must hold strong during the shakeouts.




"force the MM's to raise the price"
AKA:
"Many of us are tired of waiting for the company to show real revenue and it'll be way too long of a wait before the company can afford a share buy back, in all reality there just isnt enough near term interest in the company or product to show the profits we need to justify the years of sleeping money we have invested waiting on that "buk a share".
- Lets Choke the Float"! (hope dem shares used for cash dont kick in while we am trying to lock the final shares up)
I mean, lets get some sheet straight here. Do you think the company can make any real money or do you feel the need to buy up all the tradable shares because you have had enough? Show the rest of us where "the new plan" will benefit the company and its future revenue stream or poss. lose interest from new investors seeing the chart that will be left when it is all done .. This is either a pinkie or a "better" than pinkie.... Make up my mind!


XQ is correct, the only way to beat these guys is just don't sell into their bull/bear shakes.



Beat what guys? the MM's??? Well I guess it is looking more and more like this isnt so much a better than pinkie company if the MM's have all the old timers panties bunched up... Sounds more to me like it's time to trade in that old rocking chair because no matter how well everyone tries to grease it, the squeeking remains..

The company delivering on its business plan will beat "these guys".

Ive tried to tell ya's to let nature take it's course.. But noooo
lets spend 200 bux on a losing end of day paint job...

Im starting to dislike this cheap roadchalk alleyway investing...
UGH....
Seems even the top dog wants out sooner than later?
After 6+ yrs, I guess I would too.
I spent over 4 yrs in a subscription company that plays in the billions, so who am I to complain about any method of profit???
Stupid me, all I had to do was organize a float lock...
I coulda had a V8.............
:)

Hmmmmmmmm





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BobF

05/06/10 8:45 AM

#117942 RE: XQZME #117938

Some have posted that they support the lockdown and then turn around and state "if you do sell, sell above the ask". They are missing the point. To make a lockdown work, you can't sell. The whole key is to buy and lockup the float thus forcing MMs to raise the price. There is plenty of info about how a lockdown can work. It absolutely requires a unified effort and peeps must hold strong during the shakeouts.



Not that I'm selling, BUT lockdown-shmockdown.

The MMs will only ASK what someone is willing to pay. Period. The ONLY way to take MMs out of the picture is to uplist.

There are a couple of downsides to a lockdown. 1) Float can be too low. There has to be enough liquidity in the equity for bigger players to participate. 2) Even with low supply, the stock's intrinsic value remains unchanged.

Revenue is the ONLY way this stock will get valued higher, and uplisting is the ONLY way to level the playing field.
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spec_trader

05/06/10 10:03 AM

#117943 RE: XQZME #117938

True, but realistically, not all are going to hold or can really hold for ever.

It's expected to sell a little. So if someone was going to sell, placing a sell above the ask when not many are selling will raise the price and not lower it.

So, thats the reason to sell above the ask.