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mlsoft

09/12/02 1:58 PM

#24820 RE: Lane Hall-Witt #24777

Dollar is finally getting hit and on LOD. If you take out what appear to be bad numbers on the chart, it is at multi-day lows.

Gold closed strongly up, but off its highs.

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Elroy Jetson

09/12/02 2:37 PM

#24854 RE: Lane Hall-Witt #24777

The population problem isn't one of absolute numbers, but of ... ... Actually it's an income disparity. Unlike Europe or Japan, the US has corrected it's Baby Boom population imbalance (at least in raw numbers) through immigration.

Although there is not a shortfall of workers to pay Social Security taxes in later years, more of those workers earn lower pay scales so there is a projected shortfall in tax collected. The normal economic outcome of this would be wage inflation with lower returns on savings.

This will advantage workers at that time. It will also advantage those who did not save for retirement and rely only on social security at th expense of those who did save large amounts.

Reducing Social Security benefits will advantage savers at the expense of those who did not.

That's my read of the real situation. The only alternate income is to bring in greatly increased numbers of immigrants at that future time.

If this is difficult to envision, just think of an exaggerated population imbalance. If nursing homes employed the same ratio of employees, there would be no employees to work in other sectors of the economy. The result would be increased wages. The workers could afford the increased cost of goods with their increased wages. The elderly after paying so much more for food and other expenses would be unable to employ the same amount of nursing care. Only the very wealthy retired could afford nursing care.


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ergo sum

09/12/02 2:45 PM

#24866 RE: Lane Hall-Witt #24777

Lane

As far as I can tell that whole report is predicated on birth rates. I'm sure they are a lot smarter than I am but...

The population growth of
32.7 million people between
1990 and 2000 represents
the largest census-to-census
increase in American history.2
The previous record increase
was 28.0 million people
between 1950 and 1960, a
gain fueled primarily by the
post-World War II baby boom
(1946 to 1964).


28.0 1950-1960
24.0 1960-1970
23.0 1970-1980
22.0 1980-1990
32.7 1990-2000

Are all those new people Baby Boomers?
I realize that this part of the budget is out of control. But I question their assumptions in light of this most recent census.

Have fun
Ergo Sum