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Chiron

02/17/10 3:23 PM

#151338 RE: fsshon #151337

This is a work of art Fish!
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castboy

02/17/10 3:34 PM

#151340 RE: fsshon #151337

Dude I was bored with this Wamu story until reading that it was some great stuff.I can't hardly wait for the rest.
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jimmyturbine

02/17/10 3:35 PM

#151341 RE: fsshon #151337

That was totally AWESOME! BRILLIANT!
That summary was to the point, painted a picture of a salesman, JD, who truly spoofed the FDIC into a very bad deal!
Now the FDIC needs to turn about face on JD and go after him(wishful thinking)!
Thanks, great work!
IMO
jimmy
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silicon valley au

02/17/10 3:37 PM

#151342 RE: fsshon #151337

Or here's another version from Larry on the other board,

"Bop, I agree with your query regarding "why" Dimon hasn‘t settled, but perhaps if we review some current and hypothetical situations, they would bring us closer to an answer.

1) Dimon felt he was “invincible” during the melt down and had the presence and the “power” to negotiate ridiculous terms to both the FDIC (who pressured the OTS), while they were panicked, paralyzed and inexperienced stewards.

2) JPM bagged Sheila and the OTS with “massaged numbers” and exposed their utter malfeasance
and lack of due diligence, including the complete absence of 3.1a which describes “assets transferred”. This makes for a nasty fight between JPM and the FDIC over responsibility for not only WMB’s takeover, but they are also probably trying to position themselves to defend a criminal action.

3) JPM thought they had Weil in the bag, (which they did with the bondholders avarice) but with their total arrogance never foresaw an aware Trustee, an aggressive and diligent EC and the prudence of Judge Walrath.

4) In their blindness to forge ahead with a “fixed” deal to JPM’s likings they didn’t take into consideration the Insurance Company lawsuit and also, didn’t foresee a subpoena from a Senate sub-committee. More than likely motivated by the WaMuer's and some diligent reporters like Kristin.

5) So much time has elapsed that the original game plan is a disaster and the movements so fluid now, that JPM, Weil can no longer predict with certainty the end game from here and probably haven‘t fashioned a Plan B because the enormity of what's ahead was not considered.

6) If fraud is discovered with 3 inquiries pending, the old shareholders will rip them another azzhole, further, if discovery is expanded, (which I think it will be) then they are open to a “tort” by WMI and others as well.

7) Just a quick look at the playing field says to me, Weil has lost control of the end game, Sullivan & Cromwell are totally without abilities to defend JPM, their only tactic now is perfunctory motions ad nausem , (but certainly still soak JPM for services).

8) WMI’s new position (EC) is stronger than ever and maybe they are the White Night, along with Quinn, Emanuel, to really turn up the heat.

9) I also think that the results will now be in a higher settlement range and could be resolved in the near future, but still all paper and some cash from the FDIC .

I will also go further in my thoughts, although the fire will be quelled between WMI and JPM/FDIC, I think Pandora’s Box is already wide open and the ensuing months will reveal transgressions and fraud to the point it can’t be ignored and we will see Jamie Dimon resign, possibly facing charges and Sheila step down claiming a “great job done” after signing of on a substantial settlement with WMI in lieu of a full blown trial against her, the FDIC, OTS and probably Paulson as well.

In regards to the above, I think Judge Walrath will play her cards wisely and give the parties room to settle which will be a feather in her cap, not to capitulate to the big and powerful. I think she has the same presence of mind as the Judge who recently refused the BOA settlement and forced them back to negotiate a far higher amount. I also think she senses some big heads will fall and would rather be out of the criminal mess and leave it to another bailiwick. In some respects, she could also initiate a DOJ inquiry.

To get out of this mess, will require a very complicated global settlement, which I think the BOD of JPM will agree to over the body of Jamie Dimon,..to clean the slate and start anew. Dimon is toast , the game has changed, he has met his Waterloo ! "
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wamuvoodoo

02/17/10 3:46 PM

#151343 RE: fsshon #151337

fish like i stated numerous times ,it's gonna be a mafia style trial ,sammy the bull throwing gotti under the bus ,just we have jpm, throwing the fdic under or vice versa ,either way us wamu longs will just sit back and watch the case like the oj case ,and have dollar signs all over us
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mehedi

02/17/10 4:15 PM

#151348 RE: fsshon #151337

Great reading, truly fantastic.
However, the Q I have is that why Bair would hang herself like this. It is possible that the panic days of 2008 has made her trust someone like JD blindly - too thin I know but someone like Bair would have known this a mile away.....your thoughts!
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scottgjohnson

02/17/10 4:56 PM

#151358 RE: fsshon #151337

I am going to print this text and frame it, and hang it on my wall in my office, right next to the
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redbudal

02/17/10 5:15 PM

#151365 RE: fsshon #151337

Whew!Man,that was itense.If the EC has all this, good.If not they should.That was THE BEST POST EVER about WAMU!!!THE BOMB!!!Why aren't you on the EC?Fish,You Da Man!!!Thanx's!!!
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slaternation

02/17/10 5:27 PM

#151368 RE: fsshon #151337

Man I felt like I was watching an old episode of Drudge when I was reading that. You gotta get your video camera out and record yourself reading that and your other theory and put it on the youtube. Sit at a desk, where a all dark except a small reading lamp, we can't see your face, maybe a cigarette burning in an ashtray, some seedy underground saxophone jazz playing in the background. Priceless.

SL8