actually a combination of interest and dividends, he has lots of exxon and other big oil and index a total of about 1.3 mill in the portfolio, his returns fluctuate from about 6 t0 8 percent return. when it crashed last year in was down to about $700,000. but he wouldnt sell and it came back as predicted, in the depression fortunes were made, by those who were liquid just like last year. gl