Whatever...pinky land is full of them...has little to do with making money though, because even the legit companies abuse their shareholders. Ride the wave, and hop off...its all about timing. In EVRM @.0034...sold off some along the way...made a ton of money no matter what. Just paid for a cruise this winter compliments of Mr. Sym. I'm not in a position to judge Sym as good or evil, nor do I care to. I deal in facts. The facts screamed money, and I listened.