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Wayne R

08/03/09 1:42 PM

#24365 RE: KlausVT #24364

Posted by: Wayne R Date: Monday, August 03, 2009 1:37:15 PM
In reply to: Generic who wrote msg# 210324 Post # of 210332

I gots a problem. Anyone have ideas?

One of my computers has been running a bit "iffy" the last few days. Well today it refuses to start most programs. Can't even fire up a browser window.

Yes I tried turning it off and on again a few times, yes I ran AVG scan and Spybot scan, surprisingly 2 of the very few programs I CAN run.

Also, Yahoo messenger does load on boot, but appears as though it is not even online. That could have something to do with the problem.

Any ideas, suggestions?
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By Any Other Name

08/03/09 2:40 PM

#24371 RE: KlausVT #24364

WARNING: This is only a test of...

"... propaganda [leads] to widespread rumors across the internet where all of a sudden this turns into a fact."

After the "Better With Age?" joke I created a false alarming account about bottled water :)

While "expired" unopened bottled water isn't going to do you any harm, it isn't going to get better with age, either. The plastic that water is packaged in -- usually polyethylene terephthalate (PET) for retail bottles and high-density polyethylene (HDPE) for water cooler jugs -- is slightly porous, so the water can pick up smells and tastes from the outside world. Keep a case of bottled water in the basement for a year or so and it's going to pick up some interesting flavors. There's nothing better on a hot summer day than a 2007 Evian, with hints of dust and a crisp kitty litter finish!

The message that water has a shelf life has been further amplified in the wake of Sept. 11.

The U.S. Department of Homeland Security urges people to stockpile water in their disaster-preparedness kits. On its web site (www.ready.gov), it instructs people to change their stored unopened bottled water every six months.

Still, some shoppers are heeding these directives. If bottled water is past its expiration date, "there's probably something wrong with it," says John Bohan, a 39-year-old father of three in Los Angeles who drinks only bottled or filtered water. "I would drink bad tap water over post-dated bottled water."

Americans are expected to buy more bottled water than beer or coffee. Sales of bottled water reached $7.7 billion in 2002, up 12% from 2001, according to Beverage Marketing Corp., a New York-based consulting company.

Even dogs now have bottled-water options -- K9 Water Co. makes chicken- and beef-flavored waters.

Big grocery chains say they won't let old water sit on their shelves, and sends water that is past its stated expiration date back to the manufacturer.

Even if the water to be inserted into the sealed plastic container initially contains no bacteria, the travel of this water through unsterilized tubing to fill the jugs can contain bacteria and be picked up by the water.

Also, the air sealed within the bottle most likely was in contact with contaminates.

Plus, the plastic inner surface of the jug not being sterilized allows for inclusion of bacteria.

* No battery required, just add water :)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bacteria (6. Growth and reproduction)
Bacterial growth follows three phases. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bacterial_growth


A growing colony of Escherichiawccawa coli cells

Conclusion, after the "expired" date the water will pose a health hazard as the bacteria ran out of nutrients and died during a slowly decaying rate, a constant stochastic response to pressures both to reproduce and to go dormant in the face of declining nutrient concentrations and increasing waste concentrations, the "expired" unopened bottled water contains a soup of accumulated toxic products left at the conclusion of Life & Death In a Sealed Bottled Water Jug.

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