Mutt they can delay but not forever the piper will be paid soon and its going to be a whole lot of hurt coming......the worst is not yet over IMO there are so many bad news/housing/banking issues right now...Its insane to even think about it. I agree with you it would be nice if this were the start of a recovery, but it is not it is just all the players getting there last pop of cash at the expense of the little guy again...they will go away with thier $$$$ once the pain starts and come back for the the next round full intacted....