Gattes, first of all...who is "they all" do?? Crable made a valiant attempt to clarify his own interpretation of the partnership between EC3 and GGLB. I think in the process, he confused himself even more. You just can't dance around facts, and the main fact made here today is THAT EC3 PAYS GGLB A LICENSING FEE FOR THE USE OF THE GREEN GLOBE BRAND. You all can deny it all you want for your own purposes, but this is one heck-of-a slap in the face fact! LOL ;) Keep on trying.