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tainaor

05/23/04 6:22 AM

#1234 RE: doe #1233

I can add that the norwegian comapny mentioned can identifie and authenticates the user to both the Carrier and ISP. It is not problem the norwgian company also provides software to a number of WISP including Vodafone so their software is on both sides of the table. I find it strange that George gives such a loose and wrong comment about a competitor that alleready have agreements with major players. They have proved that they can hook the major players allready so what this George fellow is saying is allready proven wron. Have he even bothered to check the norwgian companies website to check out what they`re doing and who they have signed up with? It doesn`t seem like that.

"For example, the user is a T-Mobile client, he roams into a hot-spot, he is immediately identified as a T-Mobile client and the recognized by the ISP, the ISP logs the services and time the user spent on Wi-Fi and shares the revenue with T-Mobile. Just seamless roaming isn’t gonna cut it. Don’t you think a US Carrier or ISP would be anxious to have a license agreement with them? Of course if they did attempt this, it would be a patent infringement. We’re not concerned about Birdstep."

This is exaclty what the norwgian company does and they`ve been working on this since 1996 so if George is true to his words than this is a patent infrigement and the norwegian company and CLYW will see each other in court.

So as far as i can see the first question was answered WRONGLY and believe me I know this norwegian company much better than your George. Check out there homepage and read for yourselves it is not that difficult to find information that prove hime wrong, once again.

I`m sorry to talk about this norwegian company, but I just reacted to the answer George gave beacuse it is wrong. Ann nice going with the E-Mail doe beacuse i think we can be assured that Leon is still there.



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Michael Allard

05/23/04 6:53 AM

#1235 RE: doe #1233

doe:

If the second answer was to the question "Are insiders selling?" then I believe he answered in the affirmative.

If so, this is the biggest red flag yet. It would certainly indicate that at least from Managements standpoint, CLYW is well into its run up. not at the beginning as many on this board believe.

I do believe all the legitimate reasons insiders have to sell shares and most are no indication that a company's stock has reached its limit.

However, this company is VERY early in the testing phases, apparently have a huge contract, and are just arriving at the starting line. For people "in the know" to sell now would indicate a lack of confidence the companies ability to perform.

Of course if they were selling now, they would need to issue many press releases, meaningful or not, to keep the public interest up...hmmmmmmm




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Lord Ship

05/23/04 9:41 AM

#1237 RE: doe #1233

"...why would a major Carrier sign a deal with Birdstep to seamlessly switch their clients to Wi-Fi? The only way would be if the Carrier also owned the access point and was the ISP. Otherwise it won’t work. ... Of course if they did attempt this, it would be a patent infringement. We’re not concerned about Birdstep."

This statement is a typical arrogant reply purely designed to demonstrate that CLYW’s got everything under control but it has nothing to do with CLYW’s private beliefs. Nobody can be that ignorant.

Besides, much of the patented technology has also been developed by others and been in the public domain since the 90’s - long before the CLYW patent application was even filed so these thing would not represent infringements.

No wonder participants of this Board are confused about who CLYW’s competitors are when official statements cloud the issue like this. This email response surely was a bigger eye-opener than all the previous press releases put together!

This attitude confirms that CLYW’s business model and main focus STILL is legal enforcement rather than technology development. Extremely few companies have every been successful that way.