Replies to post #33274 on Advanced Micro Devices Inc (AMD)

[HailMary]

They were "A" step devices and operated at 2.8 Ghz

Thanks for the data point. I guess my theory of them pushing the transistors is flawed unless they did it from the start. This may indicate 90nm does have some issues in general. We'll get a better idea when Dothan arrives.

all the crap (I mean stuff) that Intel threw into the design and is not bringing any value to the customer yet

I still don't buy this theory. They could have statically tied this logic off to be inactive or had it dynamically disabled. I guess the transistors for this unused portion of the chip would still leak, but I can't see this accounting for more then 5-10W. Leakage power isn't that bad, yet (or is it?). Even with a 10W spot, Prescott consumes too much power.

[BUGGI1000]

@Alan - Updated2
The topic was on the table in the past, but I'm wondering
once again, for what the heck all the transis at Prescott
are worth? What is at this point deactivated? 64 Bit (AMD64)
functionality - thats clear, but what is "the rest" doing?

Edit:
@Opteron
I think 114mm^2 were given a few months back - so its clear,
that a 512KB L2 90nm version works around 95mm^2. Thats fine
for me.

Edit2:
I'm not happy with the overall market, but with AMD's latest
behaviour - tough fight with the 15$ mark. -> Buttom?

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