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imalurker_2

04/25/08 2:05 PM

#217877 RE: j70k #217876

Nokia losing market share in North America.

Nokia is reportedly getting less than 7 1/2 per cent of the sales. At one time it was nearly 40%.

They are going to have to learn to play ball with North American countries that hold the patents to their future.

They are sponsoring large buildings to get their LOGO in lights. They are spending tons of money on lobbying in the U.S.A.. They financed our Presidents' Inaugural Ball.

But what they don't understand is that "Playing Ball" doesn't mean trying to shove the bat up our xxx instead of licensing our IPR.

They better start greasing the bat. I don't think the Judge is going to call off the game just yet.

They are dumber than most of us Norwegians.

IMA



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ellismd

04/25/08 2:13 PM

#217881 RE: j70k #217876

j70k, that time was rapidly aproaching until the Batt's decision. The decision has giving Nok more time albeit the clock is not totally reset but they definitely have more room than they had before the Batt's decision. Tings where pretty close with the ITC hearings only weeks away before the stuff would have hit the fan and everyone would have known the depth of their infringement. So based on how close they let things get with their previous actions it would be hard to gauge how far they will let things go before signing on the bottom line.
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frobinso

04/25/08 2:15 PM

#217883 RE: j70k #217876

J70k, nice to hear this positive outlook, and I'm not fretting this lull much either because it's almost over. The stonewalling gained in this action is small if things go our way, and the ALJ has to keep us from being prejudiced too.

I think Nokia's original action taking this to CCA2, and then their attempt to use that to impede IDCC's progress with Samsung goes entirely against Judge Batt's intent and specific clarification that Samsung was not before her - it was only about Nokia. Nokia went too far, and the ITC has to keep us from being prejudiced too.

They are their own worst enemy and stepped over the line at least once, but more likely twice. It's bad enough they pursued another jurisdiction, and once granted they used it to step over the line again to impede progress against Samsung. I hope it comes back down on them hard.
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JimLur

04/25/08 7:16 PM

#217919 RE: j70k #217876

j70k, When IDCC came out with the 8-K that we all felt so good about and thought this was the end of the legal stuff I think it's fair to assume Harry and his board laid the cards on the table and said here's our best offer.

I agree that Nokia is still trying to negotiate more since the Batt's decision but put yourself in Harry's place.

If you had a verbal agreement or a hand shake on a deal with anyone about anything wouldn't you stick to your guns or the original agreement?

Nokia wants to pay zero to anyone for their IPR and recent posts about just passing the cost along to the user by raising the price of a phone and settling with IDCC are ridiculous.

The Infineon/Samsung deal as Rox stated will bring in revenues to IDCC and IMO Samsung might also be libel for revenues on the same phone that chip uses.

I hope our COB doesn't budge an inch on this settling issue.