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sneaky2

01/27/08 1:27 AM

#58052 RE: greatday88 #58051

By: parson_mac
26 Jan 2008, 11:07 PM EST
Msg. 17035 of 17038
(This msg. is a reply to 17033 by robnjr.)
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Oh GREAT! I gete out and travel for one day

and the whole dang board goes "twilight zone" on me. I frankly don't know which is scarier, that an old man somewhere in Florida is giving French lessons to his pony and donkey, or that Fairway Iron has agreed with Bio on something AFTER apologizing to him...

I swear I don't know which is more unnatural... downright apocalyptic on a biblical scale! And to top it all off, Robn has reduced today's series of posts to a bunch of arguements of 'romantics' (whatever the heck that means!).

Well, I'm not as brilliant as some boxes of hair I've met, but I am a romantic, so I've got to weigh in here on the whole EPA, tier testing, new fuel requirements.... technical... science... thing.

And since I have no idea what the heck I'm talking about, I just MIGHT be on to something...

Some scientists (I read somewhere one time so it must be true) have re-thought the whole fossil fuel thing. Some believe it's not just old recycled dinosaurs, but petroleum is recycled ORGANICS of all kinds, flora AND fauna (not to be confused with the Misses Flora and Fauna Butterwitz of Sapsuckle, Arkansas), in other words, carbon-based sludge recycled deep near the earth's furnace...

Now if JR's enzyme/catalyst/pyrolysis combination 'reduces' a variety of biomass (cellulosically, that is) to a 'carbon-based' sludge with properties so similar to petroleum that it can be refined into substances with nearly identical hydrocarbon chains... then we're not really comparing 'rock' oil to 'vegetable' oil are we... ARE WE?!? I thought not...

We are comparing a raw carbon material to another raw carbon material, one slowcooking naturally over eons of time in the depths of Mother Earth, the other microwaved in JR's souped up reactor.

Lessee... what WAS my metaphor a coupla' months ago about industrial man-made diamonds vs. the 'natural kind'? One form of carbon under ONE kind of heat and pressure for eons vs a kingsford briquette (is that French for brickette? Ask that donkey next to your field Fairway and get back to me) a briquete in a man-made furnace under immense pressure.

Now (stay with me class!) the natural and man-made diamond both have the SAME hardness and physical properties according to Moe's Scale (whoever Moe was)....

Sooooo... technically speaking... I can see where ASTM standards met by a barrel of petroleum OR a barrel of vertroleum both run through a fractional distillation tower and yielding remarkably similar substances, say, GASOLINE... DIESEL... are essentially the same fuel.

Now then, to the uninformed and uneducated such as myself, a hydro-carbon chain is a hydro-carbon chain...

It it looks like a hydro-carbon chain, refines like a hydro-carbon chain, and burns like a hydro-carbon chain, it must be a hydro-carbon chain!!!

And THAT, my friends, is why refined vertroleum that meets current ASTM criteria's standard's fuels rules may, in fact, NOT need new tier testing.

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greatday88

01/27/08 3:27 PM

#58056 RE: greatday88 #58051

I believe these people KNOW MUCH MORE than just enough....and my search for reliable DD will be placed with them and the people they associate with....

Dominican Republic Awards USSEC CEO John Rivera During International Energy Week (SEIDE) in Santo Domingo
1:21p ET January 22, 2008 (Market Wire)
U.S. Sustainable Energy Corp. (PINKSHEETS: USSE) is pleased to announce that John Rivera, CEO of U.S. Sustainable Energy, received an award last week during International Energy Week ("SEIDE") in the Dominican Republic. At the conference, the Secretary of State and President of the National Energy Commission, Aristides Fernandez Zucco, presented the only 'Award of Recognition' (pic1, pic2) to Dr. John Rivera, CEO of U.S. Sustainable Energy Corp., for his joint effort with the scientists from SEIDE and Spain, demonstrating the capacity to produce Vetroleum(TM) from a variety of native organic feedstocks. The tests proved to be positive from both the Dominican and Spanish scientists. The award also recognized Mr. Rivera as 'Biofuels Personality of the Year' by Biofuels Digest.