EZ, i may have rubbed you the wrong way. I am sorry, I have not been in the stock long enough to "enjoy" a 90% lost. I have "enjoyed" about a 50% down on my investment. I also realize that I do not get to "enjoy" that lost til I sale, so I have been trying lower my cost so if we all have to dump, we can at a lower percentage provided that the company does not take a deep sea ride. Thats always a risk with pinkies. I do however think with the additons of quality people on the BOS, they have vision to turn this thing around and see it thru. Thats IMO, where Johns weakness is. Thanks for the conversation.