Defined.. I see you still post over at the raging bears.. good luck. I still check some of the post now and then.. I noted one today from MrD titled "hello trevor".. That was about drilling the "Jessie Williamson #4" and posted in Oct.'03. Also was in Ector County which to my guess is about 255 miles West of Mineral Wells. More deflections I guess. Thats why I dropped my account over yonder..