i meant about joe being the guilty one.....believe me i had no idea the depth of that con job.......i did know he was a con man tho.....all u had to do was read his site to figure that out...but really i had no idea that this is what the sec was gonna come up with.....i mean this is true fraud......i mean i thought joe was a weasel liar......man was i way off......his is just a flat out criminal.....and i really do think he has already left....really think about it......his site was NOT about getting GTEM to pay up.......he had to know that they knew.....really look at the time line.....decarlo is the one that found this out.....why do u think he was having such a fit about that.....joes little scam wasn't going to hold up under a magnifying glass......joes site was just to F the shareholders one last time before he leaves the country.....must admit now i totally understand why GTEM didn't want anything to do with joes buddies......gees can u blame them......really i'm so glad G is gone now......doesn't mean G is a criminal......but at this point its better safe than sorry.