Jet, I missed that reply. The other thing I remember when all these people from Rubikon started showing up at Globetel is the same time when they deleted all info from the rubikon site. The other character that I had forgotten about was Leo Daly III, which was also from Rubikon. Quite a gig they had going, I can't think of one thing any of them ever did, expecially the ring leader "Dumas".