Replies to post #280597 on Zeev's Turnips Talk Politics (ZTTP)

[seabass]

>>>My statement about Bush and Cheney not wanting to "abrogate" the Constitution is based entirely on their lack of intent or desire to do any harm to the Constitution<<<


For a while I may have agreed with you on that but no more. You honestly believe that neither Bush, nor Cheney understood the implication of suspending habeas corpus in terms of assaulting the constitution?


"The concept was so well established at the time of the founding of the American Republic that the framers of the Constitution allowed suspensions of the right only under narrow circumstances. Article I, Section 9, states, “The Privilege of the Writ of Habeas Corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in Cases of Rebellion or Invasion the public Safety may require it"

http://www.newyorker.com/archive/2006/12/04/061204fa_fact


And you also believe that Cheney really doesn't understand that he's part of the executive branch? I watch and read a lot of political news and I honestly can't recall a single conservative who felt they could side with Cheney on this nonsense.


"The man a heartbeat away from the Oval Office asserts that some rules that apply to everyone else in the executive branch do not apply to him.

Cheney has refused to comply with a request from the National Archives to hand over classified documents. The vice president's office insists that, unlike every other employee of the executive branch, that rule does not include him and his staff."

http://www.abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=3316434


Tells you everything you need to know. They don't respect the constitution but they respect the right to crap on it for the purpose of maintaining power at any cost. And you seem to like that which makes you the kind of conservative that seem to defy everything they used to stand for.