I talked personally with those guys when they first came in. They had bought Urban .. hook - line - and sinker. And stuck by him soooo long. There are lots of guys around like TSX here on this board who could also have set them straight. I outlined what they could do to find out about all the technical stuff and they hired an OIL geo .. how dumb can you get ?? I even recommended a person. Oh well. Here we are now and what comes next ?