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yellowdog1

05/01/07 9:53 AM

#73343 RE: Tool_power #73338

You got it. glty. Woof.
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LexTrader

05/01/07 10:05 AM

#73351 RE: Tool_power #73338

A dismissal is a dismissal. If TM wins then the court rules against you, your shares are "invalid". You then go to brokerman and say replace these! He says uh, I had no way of knowing. You say I'll drag you into court! He says uh you ever read your brokerage agreement? You say, not closely. He says you have to go to arbitration as per your signature.
If TM loses and they all get dismissed, except for some of the ones who have fake certs. Your dimissal is no different than one that get's dismissed by challenging jurisdiction. And we're back to square one.
If some challenge for jurisdiction and the judge dismisses, but those who answered go forward to court. What will you do then?
If we go through all of this and it is all dismissed we should in fact create a group of investors and then go to group arbitration against the brokers, because TM will have exhuasted ALL HIS ANGLES imo.

All of this is IMO only and is not legal advise.
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matrix

05/01/07 10:20 AM

#73365 RE: Tool_power #73338

They don't need to prove innocence. Under our legal system, a person is innocent until proven guilty. The onus is on the plaintiff to prove his allegations. The defendant then counter argues as to why he's not guilty of them.

If yours is ruled fake, you aren't a legitimate stockholder. Fake stock represents -0- ownership in a company. However, you can use that ruling to go after whoever you want.