Replies to post #733 on 'Idea of the day' trading in and out for profit

[Georgia Bard]

Yes the landmines are quite real ... AFGHANISTAN IS AN ESPECIALLY DANGEROUS PLACE. THE 1979 SOVIET INVASION, FACTIONAL FIGHTING IN THE EARLY 1990'S, AND THE CURRENT WAR BETWEEN THE TALEBAN AND ITS OPPOSITION HAVE LEFT AN ESTIMATED 10-MILLION MINES PLANTED NEXT TO ROADS, IN THE MOUNTAINS, IN FIELDS AND RIVERBANKS, AND EVEN INSIDE PEOPLE'S HOMES.

Land-mines are catastrophic for children, whose small bodies are particularly vulnerable to the injuries they inflict. One of the mosts heavily mined countries in the world is Afghanistan. The Soviet Union garnered infamy in Afghanistan with its terror technique of littering the countryside with small anti-personnel mines that looked like toy airplanes and were thus a deadly favorite of curious young children.

GRRRRRRRRRRR

Another appauling thing of the Clinton admin was he refused to add the United States to the list of 125 nations signing a treaty to ban anti-personnel land mines in 1997. Of cousr Inho you porbably know the ostensible Clinton excuse to balk at signing the treaty was the protection of 35,000 U.S. troops near Korea's Demilitarized Zone. The first line of defense against a massive attack from the north is a sea of anti-tank mines. But if I remember correctly the treaty banned only anti-personnel mines. Of course anti-personnel mines protect the anti-tank mines from tampering by North Korean soldiers.

This could be a lot worse than Viet Nam just depends on how the plan of war is drawn up. I believe the war department and troops will be fully aware of the mines. Dangerous variable in this offensive. I am sure Bin Laden has this figured in also as does the Taliban.

Do they have the guts to be executed you mean. As long as dictatorships rule and execute anyone who dares to invoke change or bring forth critical reasoning, evolution will never happen. Everyone knows that so when the US goes in I hope the air support burns the poppy fields as they clear a way for the ground troops.





:=) Gary Swancey

[Ike Latif]

<Because to get any troops to Afghanistan, we'd have to go through Pakistan. Would they let us? Not likely. The conquest of Pakistan would have to be first. Will other Muslim nations just stand by? You see where I'm going. We're flirting with a world war between Islam and the West.>

I agree with all of his points but this one point based on which the theory of Osama invincibility is developed is based on a premise that is completely presumptuous. From day one Pakistan government at least had no problems. I think that without Pakistan on America’s side his deductions would be material but I think he made an erroneous premises about this. Pakistan has not only allowed but the secret war against terrorism has already started the planning in my opinion is in very advanced stage, it is going to be swift and fast, and probably fought out of hinterland of Afghanistan capital. A Kabul lead government will most probably lead this fight around Kandhar and East of Afghanistan if Osama is not handed over very soon, the government in Kabul will be toppled in a time that may surprise many. I don’t think that anyone agrees about killing any poor Afghan; I have been hearing US offering a carrot by helping rebuilding the country and trying to get AFGHANISTAN BACK WITHIN COMITY OF RESPECTABLE NATIONS. They will be protected from this black terror that has cleansed them completely of any recuperative ability. Strongman heads all Muslim nations, mine included. These strong man are the target of Osama, he wants to lead the 1 billon masses he wants to be the ‘Ameer-ul-Momineen’ of the entire Muslim nation, he is already the leader of that under-class that detests progress hates freedom and likes to take us back to the middle ages, I for one in the Islamic world will fight against that to my last drop of blood.

Every conflict has different parameters, road map and resolutions, this is not Pearl harbour nor it is Gulf war nor it is Vietnam, most of the time generalising conflicts and out of context references to history or past yield poor results. I think as a student of history we need to know that in present situation terrorist have taken hostage an entire land these terrorist are few thousands in number the cohorts of Laden and Mullah Omar are future Ladens, they are now available as whole bunch to be arrested and brought to justice, now some hostages may in the process suffer but overall this poverty stricken nation like mine own has to be released from these chains. Without that in my opinion huge mass geographical expanse of lands left to be governed by cave age man will bring about new lows in expression of hatred, what we saw in NY was the result of our total neglect and creation of vacuum, insular instinct and the feeling that we are protected has to be given way to see that evolution of a global thinking even in the extreme societies that they have to respect the basic law ‘innocents should not be made canon fodder of dispute.’ In NY exactly that happened, we need to see that it never happens again, never again. Vacuum anywhere should not be tolerated, an idle mind can become deranged, and world community can’t tolerate this vacuum and safe haven of terrorists. This is one bitter lesson of NY. Kabul will be taken over, a friendly government will be installed and war will be fought from within by the Afghanis, I will tell you millions of Afghans will dance on the streets once this yoke of terror is off their necks. I know the area well, don't listen to these experts, the mines were cleared long ago and their is no invasion planned, this is going to be clandestine operation where surgical operations would cleanse this hornets nest, the war has already quietly started, the planing is well advanced.



Iqbal Latif

[AlienTech]

> Attack on America would go down in the history as one of the worst attack
> on Humanity. Everybody is blaming Osama Bin Laden for that. The
> Mastermind. What perfect example of management can better be than this.
> Osama had actually planned this for India and asked his "Managers" to
> study the same. The "Managers" carried out a real time exercise to get
to
> the basics of it. But, as fate would have it, the results were
frustrating
> for Osama. Days before 11/Sept, Osama had frustratingly thrown a report
> back on his desk after he went thru, what can be said the outcome of the
> exercises carried out by their "managers". Our spl. correspondent had
> somehow got the chance to steal the following extract of the report:
>
> " Sir Osama Assalam Aliekum
> We had carried out the exercise you asked us to do so. We had targetted
> Qutub Minar in Delhi and we had very easily got into 5 Indian Airlines
> Planes flying from Mumbai to Guwahati, with our guns and grenades.
> But the operations could not be carried out because of the following
> reasons:
>
> 1) Plane 1: Did not take off. It developed Technical Diffculties.
>
> 2) Plane 2: It took Off but had a forced landing due to fuel shortage in
> Jaipur. When investigated, we learnt that both the Pilots were Sardarjis
> who came late on Duty. As such they had started the plane on the runway,
> stepped out of the cockpit and stood in front of the engine Fans to dry
> their Hair. It consumed half of the fuel.
>
> 3) Plane 3: It took off and was successfully approaching Delhi. We were
> about to take over the aircraft when suddenly it started descending
> steeply. On investigating we learnt that both the pilots were Punjabis and
> were closely related. During some friendly chat they developed some
> arguments over their parental property and when the matter got
> intense, they started physical fighting leaving aircraft to Allah.
>
> 4) Plane 4: We had taken over the controls of the plane without any
> bloodshed. We paid Rs.5,000/- each to the Pilots who agreed to jump out
> leaving the planes to us and we went ahead to destroy Qutub Minar. As we
> increased the speed for the bang, the plane could not withstand the
> desired speed and wobbled towards one side. It crashed 20 miles east of
> Qutub Minar.
>
> 5) Plane 5: We tried again. But this time by mistake we had a passanger
> named Laloo Yadav on Board. We don't know how he came to know about our
> plans and came straight in to the cabin. Accusing us that we were
> opposition's pawns, we were simply outnumbered by his co passengers who
> were supposed to be his supporters. We were thrown out of the plane and
> right now writing this report from Safdurjung Hospital.
>
> The situation is worse here and nobody cares about us. For Allah, please
> take us from here .......please""