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chipguy

03/20/07 12:30 PM

#39552 RE: jay1000 #39550

Great company; terrible stock ……
I am ready to throw in the towel …


I think would be a big mistake.

Intel has a whole lot of advantages coming together now that
are just starting to impact the financial numbers. Intel's most
recent annual results, 2006, reflects the old competitive/
pricing situation with netburst, not the current one. If you still
want to get out at least hold on until Q1 results come out.



wbmw

03/20/07 12:31 PM

#39553 RE: jay1000 #39550

Re: Could someone more perceptive than I am; tell me why Intel’s stock price just does not move?

Investors are currently valuing Intel as a company with very little growth potential. This is somewhat spurred by the analysts, who have been insisting that the slippery slope of microprocessor commoditization, along with scrappy and efficient competitors, will have more of a downward pull on Intel's ASPs than Intel can reverse by expanding the size of the market.

Their theories were vindicated last year, when Intel's revenues fell sharply, year over year, in spite of solid growth from other semiconductor companies. Of course, those who pay close attention to the details (many on this forum, for example), understand the competitive dynamic between Intel and AMD that led to Intel's disastrous 2006 performance (relative to the industry). And many here believe that Intel is poised to deliver much greater returns, now and in the future.

Of course, Wall Street isn't too convinced. In fact, when they see AMD flailing, they pretty much assume that Intel will announce lowered guidance as well. That remains to be seen, and IMO, the opposite may be true. I think Intel's stock performance is intimately tied to actual results, rather than the strength of their product line. Investors want Intel to show them the money. It's that simple.

If you feel like throwing in the towel, that's understandable. It's not a 100% sure thing that INTC stock will ever recover. However, I think relative to a ton of other stocks I can think of, INTC is the best poised to show the best returns over the next year. I think if people wait it out, they will see their investments appreciate. Of course, it never hurts to diversify, so if your INTC holdings are a large portion of your portfolio, feel free to sell off some of it and invest accordingly. However, I think you will end up feeling sorry if you sell all of it.

drjohn

03/20/07 12:40 PM

#39556 RE: jay1000 #39550

Several reason's that I can think of but basically Intel is percieved as a one trick pony, and if you are a one trick pony Margins and earnings growth are everything. Intel has made too many claims about new markets with new products and has come up with zelch. The next big things are WIMAX and Silicon laser fiberoptics but show me the money time is approaching. Yes I am a long suffering Intel long.

dlr_972

03/20/07 3:07 PM

#39562 RE: jay1000 #39550

The big problem I see is the rate in which Intel is eating it's children. The performance curve is shotting straight up to fend off AMD, while the system requirements are basically flat. How long will it take for the applications place strong demands on the current hardware? The upgrade cycle could really stretch out, pushing out future upgrades.

Basically they need new management that can run a competitive business in the semi space.

mas

03/20/07 4:06 PM

#39571 RE: jay1000 #39550

Margins went a bit south getting rid of the P4 inventory but things should start improving now as C2D starts forming the bulk of output and they start squeezing AMD's asps even more. $25-$30 must surely be on the cards after Q4 results. After then it's a question of how Barcelona compares against Intel's 45nm cores.