gfp: I know Vance has blemishes. He got into Silicon Valley high finance circles pretty quickly out of Yale Law. He definitely has a few financial "mentors". But the alternatives were worse. Trump has a lot of flaws. But even taking that into consideration there is no other man or woman in America that has any possible chance of saving the country right now, in the throes of a 4th Turning. It's Trump or we become Venezuela on our way to becoming a total vassal state of China.