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fuagf

05/03/24 4:31 AM

#472812 RE: janice shell #472803

Who allegedly enjoyed the high life. By memory, three wives, or mistresses. Anyway allegedly old Ho was quite the party guy. Hmm. or maybe that was more scuttlebutt than fact .. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ho_Chi_Minh#Personal_life . Whatever, he was a very interested and talented guy.

blackhawks

05/03/24 8:52 AM

#472817 RE: janice shell #472803

Her visit was in '72; Ho died in '69. Before the phrase 'shit storm' was in the vernacular, she created one.

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2015/jan/20/jane-fonda-hanoi-jane-photo-was-a-huge-mistake



https://www.quora.com/Did-Jane-Fonda-ever-meet-Ho-Chi-Minh
Gregg Gray

Former Worked at the White House for six years. Updated 5y

What were your thoughts when Jane Fonda went to Hanoi?

My Dad was in Vietnam and my Mom had a fit over Jane Fonda. I’m confident Mom would have harmed her if she could have got a hold if her. So my thoughts were that Jane Fonda was a traitor to American Fighting Folks, and a Communist Sympathizer.

Jane wouldn't have had a chance against a crazed Country Girl like my Mom. Hell there would have been a line of folks waiting to whip her arse. 20 Minute workout would have lasted all day long.

I'm so committed to carrying on that legacy that to this day I will not watch, and have never watched, a movie with Jane Fonda in it. When I was in service occasionally a Jane Fonda movie would show up for the Base Theater. If it ever made it on the Marquee we would raise hell until they pulled it down and sent the movie on its way. I felt it appropriate for my troops to know just how much I thought of Hanoi Jane.



Jim Wayne

B.A. from Duke University (Graduated 1967)5y

Many of them thought she was an out-and-out traitor. They heard the stories, since refuted by the POWs involved, that she had betrayed them by turning their letters over to the Vietnamese guards. Since those POWs were still imprisoned, this narrative was believed. At the time, I was inclined to at least sympathize with them. Had I seen a picture of her actually firing that AA gun, I would have considered her a traitor; as it was, I considered her a politically naive and not-very-intelligent self-aggrandizing dupe.

A great many entertainers of that period were opposed to the war, and acted to show their opposition. Some of them were people whose work I liked. But none of those actually went to North Vietnam. Peter, Paul and Mary, the folk trio who were and are among the favorite artists of my lifetime, were opposed to the war. l never stopped liking them, or playing their records. I remember the night before I DEROSed (returned to the US) sitting with a group of others, one of whom had a guitar, singing “Where have all the flowers gone,” “leaving on a jet plane,” and “In the early morning rain” (all songs popularized by PP&M) over and over as we waited for our turn to fly home.