Andy B made some very interesting comments in the Q&A - well worth a watch.
Specifically for me this statement:
"what we've observed recently is that end customers (large) are getting quite risk averse in terms of their future purchasing plans - have to commit to millions of optics for deployment next year and realistically they want to use technologies that are in volume production, mature, stable and guaranteed to work and there are lead times, so whatever they're going to deploy next year they need to decide on today."
The lead time for us has been 3 years - goes all the way back to the initial foundry news in 2021.
This statement was specific to large volume production - he does go on to state that some of these newer technologies could still be deployed next year, and that everyone's working very hard on them. Specifically calls out TFLN as not ready.
Lebby told us in December they're working on deals, and in January a "Eureka" moment for polymers is coming "fairly soon."
I think the next press release is a big one