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04/28/24 11:43 AM

#328819 RE: GetSeriousOK #328817

This Nonsense From Biel's #1 Bullshit Artist!!

Sorry Art You Are #2!!

gimmee greenbacks

04/28/24 11:49 AM

#328821 RE: GetSeriousOK #328817

“or through data published in a peer-reviewed journal.”.>>>>”

You know, I know and everyone here on this board knows that the second criterion has already been met. Biel HAS data published in a peer-reviewed journal.

Your point is moot..quite moot.


https://rapm.bmj.com/content/early/2024/02/21/rapm-2023-105154





BIEl

Probity

04/28/24 1:48 PM

#328827 RE: GetSeriousOK #328817

>>>The statistics for patient use of narcotic medication are shown in Table 2. The means were 11 pills per patient in the active group and 18.1 pills per patient in the placebo group, representing a 68% increase in narcotic medication use in the placebo group (P = 0.07, nonsignificant increase).”<<<

Looks like you didn’t continue with the rest of that paragraph, for some reason. Wonder why?
“However with the outlier (patient 10) excluded, the mean narcotic pill use becomes 18.1 for the placebo group and 8.5 for the active group (P = .002, a significant difference)…

And it gets even better in that same paragraph…
…The median value, which better controls for any outliers in the data set provides a more representative value for pain pills per patient in the active group. The median number of prescription pills per patient was 8.5 in the active group and 20 in the placebo group”.

There’s more goodies to be had in the VAS scores-a measure of pain level, but I’ll stop here.

Thanks for the opportunity to point out your cherry-picking. Perhaps you were hurried and it was unintentional?