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You are still farked, we all are.



Roger Hallam
@RogerHallamCS21
So here's how we should look at all this temperature stuff. The fundamental thing to understand is that there is a cut off point where the human body dies in 6 hours (Wet Bulb Effect)- around 35C to 50C, depending on the humidity. As I keep reminding people, when people die they do not come back - unlike just being ill. These are the two key facts.

So really the thing to think about is not, hey it is now 30C at night in Crete in March every year or two. The KEY THING is how often is it going to be 50C at night in Crete? Let's say that is every 20 years - so half the population dies in one day every 20 years.

This is why THE AVERAGE is completely irrelevant - the horror is in how often the long tail happens - how often a place hits the "all humans die in one day" point.

So if at 1C it is once in 10 000 years - at 2C it might be once in 100 years - at 3C once in 20 years (i.e., effective human extinction).

At 1C things are tricky - at 2C things are super risky - at 3C half the world has to move because every 20 years they all die if they stay put.

Of course you are going to say well people will adapt (have underground shelters etc). Sure some people survive in the Sahara. But try doing that in an area such as France!

The biggest social shock of human history is going to be when the first mass mortality event happens suddenly and what I have written in this post will become the most important information in the world. And then everyone will go - oh fuck fuck fuck. The door of the gas chamber has closed.

In case you are interested in how this has worked in history you can read the "general crisis" on the 1C drop in temperatures in the seventeenth century when the global population dropped by a third. You can see that the mass death events happened all in one go when extreme climate events happened - droughts and extreme cold temperatures. When these happened two years in a row it took generations for the population to recover. And it did of course. But this time round it will never change. It will just get worse.

The researchers concluded: “The geographic range and frequency of non-compensable heat extremes will increase rapidly, given only moderate continued increase in global average temperatures. This implies that, in the near future, a substantial portion of the world’s population will be exposed to these non-compensable environmental conditions.”

“a real risk” of widespread exposure with “hundreds of millions of people” affected before they were sufficiently heat-adapted to avoid attendant increases in deaths and illness."

https://theguardian.com/environment/2023/sep/08/deadly-humid-heatwaves-to-spread-rapidly-as-climate-warms-study#:~:text=Life%2Dthreatening%20periods%20of%20high,resulting%20from%20the%20climate%20crisis


This area charted is weather and temp aproximately 3 months ahead of time making it the season in July. In July it will be in temps of the hottest time of the year, in the hottest part of the year it will be????

Update with March's monthly-average sea surface temperature data: the North Atlantic continues to shatter records. In fact, this year it has not (and will not) get below 20°C for the first time in recorded history!
Data: NOAA ERSSTv5 pic.twitter.com/9pqFr19S27

— Brian McNoldy (@BMcNoldy) April 4, 2024

ICYMI 📻| Lincolnshire arable farmer Henry Ward spoke to @BBCr4today over the weekend, discussing the devastating impact wet weather and flooding has had on his farm over winter.

Listen from 38:14 👉 https://t.co/iB9Fh7v4s8 pic.twitter.com/58FZe5kNjS

— National Farmers' Union (@NFUtweets) April 2, 2024

Puerto Rico has declared a public health emergency amidst a surge in dengue fever cases, with an increase in outbreaks around the world linked to warming temperatures.https://t.co/og4qi1omVx via @Grist pic.twitter.com/vXDzXyaK5O

— Yale Program on Climate Change Communication (@YaleClimateComm) April 4, 2024

Schools close and crops wither as ‘historic’ heatwave hits south-east Asia
Governments across region grappling for response as temperatures soar to unseasonable highs
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2024/apr/04/schools-close-and-crops-wither-as-historic-heatwave-hits-south-east-asia
Rebecca Ratcliffe South-east Asia correspondent
Thu 4 Apr 2024 06.02 EDT

‘Everybody has a breaking point’: how the climate crisis affects our brains
Researchers measuring the effect of Hurricane Sandy on children in utero at the time reported: ‘Our findings are extremely alarming.’ Illustration: Ngadi https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2024/mar/27/everybody-has-a-breaking-point-how-the-climate-crisis-affects-our-brains
Climate crisis
‘Everybody has a breaking point’: how the climate crisis affects our brains
Are growing rates of anxiety, depression, ADHD, PTSD, Alzheimer’s and motor neurone disease related to rising temperatures and other extreme environmental changes?

This is what the 30 million tonnes of ice that Greenland loses every hour looks like, if it were positioned next to the Eiffel tower before melting


Just 57 companies linked to 80% of greenhouse gas emissions since 2016
Analysis reveals many big producers increased output of fossil fuels and related emissions in seven years after Paris climate deal
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2024/apr/04/just-57-companies-linked-to-80-of-greenhouse-gas-emissions-since-2016


CLIMATE SOLUTIONS
America’s new high-risk, high-reward $20 billion climate push
In an ambitious effort to fight climate change, the EPA is assisting local groups in financing clean-energy projects
https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-solutions/2024/04/04/epa-greenhouse-gas-reduction-fund/?isMobile=1
By Maxine Joselow
April 4, 2024 at 5:00 a.m. EDT

The Environmental Protection Agency on Thursday awarded $20 billion to help finance clean-energy projects across the country, marking one of the Biden administration’s biggest investments in combating climate change and curbing pollution in disadvantaged communities.

The money comes from the Greenhouse Gas Reduction Fund established by President Biden’s signature climate law, the Inflation Reduction Act. The fund seeks to leverage public and private dollars to invest in clean-energy technologies such as solar panels, heat pumps and more.

The program is potentially one of the most consequential — yet least understood — parts of the climate law. Because of the size of the spending, it is sure to be closely watched by opponents and supporters of the nation’s energy transition.........................


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